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Ateneo throttles La Salle

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Sunday, 28 August 2011 6,235 Views / 420 Comments

ATENEO de Manila University just couldn’t pass up an opportunity to make its arch-rival’s chances of making the Final Four near impossible. In doing so, they also took a step further to an elimination round sweep.

Bucking foul trouble that saddled its prized rookie center, the Blue Eagles manhandled the De La Salle Green University Archers 79-62 for their eleventh straight win in season 74 of the UAAP last August 28 at the Araneta Coliseum.

“One of the keys of our team this year is we don’t really rely on just one person,” said Ateneo head coach Norman Black. “We’re a very balanced team, so, even if Greg’s [Slaughter] out of the game, we still need to play well while he’s on the bench.”

Greg Slaughter was whistled for his second foul barely four minutes into the first quarter, hitting a driving Arnold Van Opstal and sending him to the line where his split gave La Salle a 5-4 lead. That turned out to be their only lead of the game, as Ateneo countered with transition scores by Kiefer Ravena and Kirk Long, followed by charities from Justin Chua, to make it 12-6 and force the Green Archers to the catch-up role all the way to the end. They got close in the second quarter after team captain Simon Atkins hit a triple to pull his team to within a deuce, 28-26 with 2:21 remaining. Ravena and Chua provided the separation though, with a jumper and a free throw respectively, to hike the halftime lead to five.

The Blue Eagles hoped that the return of Slaughter would reinvigorate them enough to forge a double-digit lead, but it seemed like La Salle was going to deny them that opportunity when Maui Villanueva quickly drew the seven-footer’s third just two minutes into the second half. Black gambled though by leaving him in, and it paid off, as the defending champions broke out into a 9-2 run to give them a 13-point lead, 42-29. The Archer frontcourt tried valiantly to cut into the score, as Van Opstal and Norbert Torres brought the tally down to 42-32. They couldn’t sustain their momentum though, as a trey from Tonino Gonzaga and two completed trips to the line by Emman Monfort padded the lead even further to 51-36 at the 2:22 mark of the third quarter.

By the fourth quarter, the writing was on the wall for the green shirts as they couldn’t get stops. A Gonzaga triple and layup in transition sandwiched a jumper by Slaughter, opening up a 60-46 advantage in the opening moments of the final period. Engaging Ateneo in an exchange of baskets did De La Salle no favors, especially as the league leaders kept running on missed triples. Coupled with offensive rebounds, the efficient Ateneo offense built its biggest lead at 21 after an and-one play by Nico Salva with less than a minute and a half to play as the second unit held down the fort until the final buzzer.

“This was an easy week to get them focused. Nobody needs to be motivated much when we play La Salle,” added Black after his team barely survived the UE Red Warriors, their opponents prior to this matchup. “We understood the situation coming into the game, they [La Salle] really needed this basketball game to be able to survive, get into the Final Four and we just wanted to come out and beat them.”

Four Blue Eagles finished in double-digit scoring, led by the sweet-shooting Salva, who led the way with 19 markers on a 50 percent clip. The starting backcourt of Ravena and Monfort scored 13 each and combined for 13 boards and seven dimes. Top reserve Gozaga was the spark plug off the bench for Ateneo on both ends of the court, scoring 12 points and adding four rebounds, three assists and two steals. “He’s probably been our best bench player this year. Tonight was a very good offensive night for him…and he always plays good defense so I’m happy for him,” said Black.

Ateneo shut down the perimeter defensively, holding DLSU to just 16 points on 7-of-27 shooting from outside the shaded lane. And, despite tying them in offensive rebounds and turnovers, with 14 and 16 respectively, the Blue Eagles still had more second-chance points, 11 to 8, and turnover points, 16 to 13.

Only Van Opstal scored in double-digits for La Salle, finishing with 13 points, two rebounds and two blocks as he took advantage of Slaughter’s foul trouble to attack the rim. Almond Vosotros and Jarelan Tampus both added nine, but all of Vosotros’ points came in the second half, while all of Tampus’ scores were from the first. The Green Archers were able to match the Blue Eagles’ trips to the foul line, both getting 22 looks from the stripe, but could not convert, making only 10 free throws while Ateneo knocked in 18.

The Blue Eagles clinched a twice-to-beat advantage in case of a Final Four with this win, going up to 11-0 as they await the UP Fighting Maroons on September 1. The Green Archers, meanwhile, have lost four straight games and have not yet won a game in the second round of the tournament, dropping to 4-7, tied with the idle NU Bulldogs. That puts them two games behind the UST Growling Tigers who are at 6-5, with a dimming possibility of making the postseason. Their next assignment will also be UP on September 4.

The scores:

Ateneo 79 – Salva 19, Ravena 13, Monfort 13, Gonzaga 12, Slaughter 8, Chua 7, Long 6, Tiongson 1, Erram 0, Sumalinog 0, Golla 0, Austria 0

De La Salle 62 – Van Opstal 13, Vosotros 9, Tampus 9, Torres 8, Revilla 6, Villanueva 6, Atkins 4, de la Paz 3, Paredes 2, Webb 2, Gotladera 0, Mendoza 0, Marata 0

Quarter scoring: 14-11, 31-26, 53-42, 79-62


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420 Comments

  • ANGELOFGOD says:

    DLSU might have lost this game, but I honestly think it was their best game for the season. I know they can play better, but best game for the season thus far. Congratulations!

    • Yup, I agree! DLSU’s best game this season! Can be better but best game.

    • nyaks says:

      But maybe, they were only at range in the half because Slaughter missed a half? hmmmm

    • go lasal sal says:

      So what did it show?

      Half of Admu’s potential > La Salle’s best

      I bet even the seasoned homegrowns Juami,Zags,Bacon,Kiefer,and Golla will toy with this La Salle team.

      • ANGELOFGOD says:

        No.. They had their best game and I dont think anyone can toy with DLSU…

        ADMU fans have a lot of respect for the DLSU Coaches, players etc….

        I am just saying, to the degree of difficulty playing with a strong team like ADMU,DLSU played best…,ie, they could have won against other teams but it was not their best game…

        ANIMO!

        • Go Lasal sal says:

          surely ur kidding? Admu fans have a lot of respect for their coach, players? Even their own fans can’t give them the respect, why expect the rival to offer the same? Ateneo couldn’t care less.

          And no one can toy with Dlsu? hello? They have been the new whipping boys from the top half group this season. Wake up.

        • nyaks says:

          Not so sure about that Angel of God.

          ADMU did win over UE with only pts, and Slaughter was playing his regular game.

          Lasalle lost by around 20 pts. What more could’ve happened if Slaughter played in the first half?

  • Capt. Kirk says:

    Nico Salvaaaa!

    Those uncalled for three’s did DLSU in. Torres why?!

    Good game from AVO, more of those kid.

  • Mang Tony says:

    More and more, it’s looking like a sweep. Go Ateneo, one big fight!

  • Anti-heat says:

    We tried to compete and played good defense for most part of the game. We just got beat by the better team. The score might say otherwise but it was a good game nonetheless as there were hardly any bad calls. Congrats to the blue eagles.

    • Anti-heat says:

      Oh I also want to give a shout out to former San Beda Red Cub and former De La Salle Green Archer JV Casio for being the no. 1 overall draft pick in today’s PBA draft.

      • mav says:

        thanks AH for mentioning his former schools. It’s the foundation that made him what he is today, a very good basketball player :D

        • muralla22 says:

          good thing from jv he doesn’t forget where he came from….he thank not only la salle but also san beda and coach ato badolato

    • Capt. Kirk says:

      The passes inside the lanes were just too telegraph and yet, the Archers continued to do it. How many transitions points did you give up on that? Maybe 12.

      • Anti-heat says:

        It is what it is. A lot of mistakes sure but at least in this game they never gave up. They didn’t have that look of a losing team even when Ateneo was up big. They kept on fighting. Turnover? Run back, if Ateneo scores then forget about that and play the next possession. Again it’s a loss, this might sound awkward but, it’s not a bad loss if you look at how the team competed.

        • Z says:

          it’s definitely more competitive especially seeing those horrendous past 2 games.

        • Escudo says:

          Uytengsu is expected to announce the retirement of head coach Tim Cone, who gave the franchise a Grand Slam and several championships.
          “Coaching fatigue. He wanted to do something different,” said a governor who also informed us that Tim’s assistant, Joel Banal, will replace Cone.

  • Z says:

    5 for the Blue and White:

    -Nico Salva. this guy can play fellas. he ain’t a bust.

    -Tonino Gonzaga. yep. this was zags’ game from beginning to end. and is it just me or is he the only one accustomed to the new three point line?

    -Justin Chua. am i worried that whenever greg sits down we lose a step? no. Justin Chua arrived and played like it was season 73.

    -Pocket Rocket. well, it’s no question who’s the best point guard of the season. no, i won’t take it back. smallest guy collaring loose balls and rebounds in the land of the giants? giving pin point fastbreak passes like a football quarterback?

    -Kiefer Ravena. it looks like my claim that he is the most consistent rookie by not scoring less than 10 points since the first game fluke nearly doomed me. and kiefer ravena just keeps saying to doubters: take me seriously.

    • Anti-heat says:

      Nico Salva should be part of the mythical team no offense to Ramos, Abdul or any other worthy candidates but with the lone exception of that game against UE, the guy has produced significant numbers in every game. The only reason people don’t notice this is he’s playing with Kiefer Ravena and Greg Slaughter. If Ateneo does sweep the elimination round, shouldn’t they have 3 guys in that mythical team? San Beda swept last year and they had 3 guys so I think Ateneo should have Ravena, Slaughter and Salva in the mythical 5 if they manage to sweep that is.

      • Z says:

        i still won’t say we’d sweep, but even we get our record tarnished, i still say we must give the guy his dues and put him on the mythical team. is there anyone else deserving? i mean, you’re the third fiddle yet you are beasting out like this, di ba? that alone is merit enough already. steady for at least 12-13ppg and 6-7rpg. he’s really better than what the Rocket was in his last two years for the Blue and White.

        • WES says:

          He can even win Most Improve Player Award. He took his talents to the next level and has been consistent. From role player to supposed 3rd option in the playbook, not even part of the top-billing, but always lead the box scores.

        • muralla22 says:

          right now, its already in the hands of adamson to deny a sweep from ateneo….although NU is a dangerous team and they might pull off an upset, adamson has a better and greater chance of beating ateneo

          • UPset says:

            Sakit mo nman magsalita. Non existent ba UP? Tandaan mo ang dameng ex-eaglets sa kanila. Hayaan mo kapatid, pagbibigyan kayo ng Ateneo. 1-2 quarters, ok? Anu? Gusto mo dikit tulad ng UE? Sobra!

          • Z says:

            madaming ngang ex-eaglets bro. but they have regressed in terms of development once they donned the maroon jerseys no offense. no longer is mike g the dude we feared facing in intrams nor is he the dude other juniors squads feared facing in games alongside bacon austria.

          • leolite says:

            If any team could deny Ateneo a sweep, that would be Adamson. No other team in the UAAP is good enough. Ateneo this year is a power team, but any power team ca succumb to a good and consistent defence.

          • pusang pula says:

            tama po sir leolite! :) feu can be a contender too if rr and romeo (ummmm) can play their full potential

          • Z says:

            yeah sure. leo austria must put post-its on nuyles’s and cabrera’s foreheads telling them to stop shooting threes when they have a 7-point lead.

          • UPset says:

            UP is pretty capable of pulling a coUP or my name isn’t UPset!

      • AteneanAllTheWay says:

        at the start of the season, everyone called ateneo Ravena and Slaughter’s team, but i think over the past several games (except for UE), Salva has emerged with significant numbers. and i agree with you, Anti-heat. those 3 may definitely get a spot in the Mythical 5. but what about one more? do you agree that Monfort has been the most consistent pure point guard this season? just the right amount of scoring, huge rebounds, playmaking dishes, and tough defense too.

        • Anti-heat says:

          Can’t call Monfort the best PG this season, I think that notion should go to Jeric Fortuna. Most steady? Maybe. The Mythical Selection though is not based on position, it’s always 2 Guards, 2 Forwards (sometimes 3 if there is no pure center) and 1 center. That said I think the Mythical team should be

          PG- RR Garcia
          SG- Kiefer Ravena
          SF- Ray Parks
          PF- Nico Salva
          C- Greg Slaughter

          • AteneanAllTheWay says:

            Fortuna has had some great games. I just think it’s all scoring and not enough playmaking. And definitely not as steady as Monfort. But yeah, i forgot they’re not strict with positions. RR Garcia will definitely get the nod after coming out to save FEU for several games.

          • Anti-heat says:

            Well I look at it this way how would Fortuna play if he was in Ateneo and how would Monfort play if he was in UST. Fortuna scores because it’s needed while Monfort will score when he sees an opportunity or an opportunity is created by his teammates. They both pass but Eman only gets more assists because of the number of options Ateneo has on offense compared to UST.

          • AteneanAllTheWay says:

            ah yes. good point there.

          • nyaks says:

            Monfort is the best PURE point guard this season.

          • WES says:

            Well said, A-H. That’s exactly it. Both Monfort and Fortuna are doing what is expected, no wait, even required from them. Jeric looks to be contending for the Mythical Selection. Emman right now is the best distributor of the ball and facilitator for team plays in the UAAP today.

          • WES says:

            http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2011/08/ateneo-la-salle-second-round-one.html Here’s a nice piece on Emman Monfort. Ateneo de Iloilo’s pride also! :)

          • nyaks says:

            On an overall skill-talent basis.

            Garcia > Fortuna > Monfort > Alvarez > Revilla

          • voluntasDei says:

            All I can say, Montfort is really a great point guard.

          • truth says:

            I like monfort because he doesn’t chalk-up bad shots and he’s very composed and mature. It’s like he feels he doesn’t need to score as long as he makes good plays for his teammates. Last year he scored 20pts in a couple of games. This year, he’s not forcing himself to be the star which is why I respect what he does more. I don’t think he’d even get into the 2nd mythical team though because he lacks stats. But those stats don’t reflect his value for his team.

          • ANGELOFGOD says:

            Only a Mythical 5 for Character, Genius and Leadership is where Montfort belongs… he is way beyond this league in terms of these attributes….

    • Spinning Back Fist says:

      Who said Nico is a bust? Meron ba? Hehehehe =) I think he’s pro ready.

    • WES says:

      Don’t forget about my classmate Emman, Z! :) He just always make right passes and set-up of plays. From the look of the game, he has some sorta control and voice over the team.

  • Navigator says:

    DLSU lost the game in the 3rd quarter where they forgot to play defense and shot threes with reckless abandon.

    And Joshua Webb was still “Mr. Invisible Man”.

    Sad, but he may be demoted to Team B next season.

    • Z says:

      he’s not yet graduating? eh mas nauna pa siya kay Kirk ah. ano yan, bagong cholo villanueva? lol, it’s so sad that DLSU has two mr. irrelevants in atkins and webb.

      • Anti-heat says:

        Di naman, he was a rookie during Ateneo’s first championship run regardless it’s time to “waive” this guy.

        • Z says:

          seriously? did he not suit up the same year when kirk was a rookie? the time UE swept the eliminations round? i swear he was there.

          • Yosi says:

            Magka batch sila ni salva at buenafe

          • Anti-heat says:

            The rookie during that UE sweep was Atkins. He was a champion on his rookie year. Webb was picked out of the same season as Buenafe, he was said to be a consolation prize for not netting Buenafe *sighs it’s like getting Darko when Lebron went at number 1.

          • Z says:

            ahhhhhh. thanks for clarifying AH. my bad. i thought webb was already playing during kirk’s first year. and that darko pun is really funny. lol

          • Anti-heat says:

            Interestingly enough that year Ateneo got 2 important pieces for their championship run, Nonoy and Kirk Long.

          • WES says:

            The batchmate of Atkins is really Emman Monfort. Emman suited up for the 2006 season, then was moved to Team B by season 2008, which makes 2011 his 5th season. Atkins was already enrolled in DLSU in 2006, but his rookie season was only counted in the year 2007.

          • truth says:

            in the jrs championship of 2007, it was admu-dlsz. admu had just graduated austria, gonzaga and gamboa. dlsz had just graduated atkins. this was the year when ravena was just a freshman in the uaap jrs and yet he scored 22 in the championship. ateneo also had golla and tiongson at this time. this was joshua webb’s 4th year in dlsz and it was this game wherein he dropped a 20-20 and showed that he was a man amongst boys that time. he also had jeric fortuna as his pg who as good then as he is now.

      • Navigator says:

        His UAAP eligibilty expires next year, same with Nico Salva. Kirk is graduating this year along with Austria and Monfort.

    • Yosi says:

      Depends if dindo pumaren is still the coach. Sadly, all hs stars regress in his system and under his training.

      • Z says:

        Dindo is not to blame bro. as for the system, yes, it needs to be tweaked. there’s no way you can’t have a star these days or at least one solid go-to-guy. i’ll put blame on his assitants for just staying put on their butts and not helping the team out.

        • Yosi says:

          In government, the heads of the executive department are considered the alter ego of the president. Using that as a basis, we can safely say that the assitant coaches are also the alter ego of the head coach.

          Therefore weccan conclude that, yturri and santiago equals dindo pumaren! Lol!

    • Jesus Shuttlesworth says:

      Man, Webb has been a huge bust all these years. Sayang talaga, laki ng pinakita niyang potential nung rookie year niya, may pedigree pa. Just didn’t have what it takes mentally I guess.

  • J says:

    I watched it live at the Big Dome earlier. We were truly happy that Ateneo won; however, we also felt sad for La Salle. Call us rivals and what not, but I felt the loss of determination for the said team. There were more than seven or so seconds left in the final quarter but they did not choose to shoot the ball anymore. It was quite saddening.

    • Anti-heat says:

      I saw more determination in this game than the last 2 combined. Sometimes losing teams are like that and they just want to get the game over with. It’s painful losing especially to Ateneo, whether it’s by 1 point or by 20 points and sometimes teams just want it over with.

    • kunatz says:

      With the game out of reach i think that was just courtesy.

  • SK says:

    tsambak langs hihihi huhuhu

  • bubuchacha says:

    whatever happened to juami? sana bumalik na ang dati niyang laro.

  • Spinning Back Fist says:

    During the summer, I predicted that the Green Archers of De La Salle Univ. will reach the championship game and may surprise the Blue Eagles. The reason: Ateneo won the championship when La Salle was the host school. I expected the Green Archers to have that “its pay back time” attitude now that the Ateneo is the host. Masakit lang naman kasi siguro yun, ano?
    And again, I’m wrong.

    • Anti-heat says:

      Mas masakit actually yung 2002, mas masakit yung alam niyong kayo dapat mag champion sabay masisilat kayo sa finals.

      • Z says:

        well AH, kung titignan naman, Ateneo was strong on paper too. we had Rico, Larry, LA, Wesley and Rich. that’s one starting 5 i don’t like to mess with during those times.

        • Anti-heat says:

          Yeah those were the days multiple teams were loaded. Ateneo had those 5 together with Gec Chia. DLSU had Cortez, Cardona, Wilson, Sharma, Sta. Maria, Yeo. UE had Yap, Artadi, Tubid. UST had Baguio, Luanzon annd Vizcara.

          • Z says:

            ahh there’s one more. FEU. arwind santos, denok, gerard jones, RJ rizada, mark isip, cesar catli, rhagni sinco, don yabut (LOL!)… sheesh… call those times loaded teams. and adamson had mark abadia, alonzo, tagupa, up and coming bono, cabahug… season 69 was probably the best competition- and talent-wise.

          • Mysterious Blue Eagle Man 97 says:

            Yeah. Grabe yung mga line ups that year. Aside from the names you mentioned, you would also the likes of Eddie Laure, JC Intal, Doug Kramer, Macky Escalona, Manny Ramos, BJ Manalo, TY Tang, Mark Borboran, KG Canaleta, Paolo Hubalde, Arwind Santos, and Denok Miranda. All those guys made it to the PBA.

          • WES says:

            talent was better in the early to mid 00s than today?

          • Z says:

            well, in a way of saying WES, yeah. big names lahat yun sa college ball circle. lalo na nung 2002. they have the most number of PBA players since i started paying attention again to the league. i mean that batch.

          • Anti-heat says:

            Majority of those guys are still in the league and are either star players or major role players.

          • WES says:

            Well, I think so too. I watched the PBA again bec of them college stars. Their entry to the PBA marked the end of the Fil-Am and Sham dominance. The UAAP era began. But after the 2006 season, only a handful can be mentioned.

          • Spinning Back Fist says:

            The Red Bull – Purefoods rivalry was fun. Enrico, James Yap and Kerby Raymundo made the Mythical 5 team. Then the Fil-Fors dominated.

          • DJ says:

            Do not forget “The Rainman.” I was still in high school when DLSU made that incredible 4-peat. Ren-Ren Ritualo was simply unstoppable. Entire teams tried to cover the guy but he continued to make it rain from the 3-pt line. Ateneo was still in its “Dark Decade” when Ritualo gave DLSU a remarkable dynasty. While the Blue Eagles were getting better and better under Joe Lipa, they were simply overpowered by the Ritualo-led Green Archers. Ren-Ren was the Blue Eagles’s kryptonite, but most importantly, he is arguably one of the best players of DLSU…ever.

          • Anti-heat says:

            @DJ

            Yep Don Allado was the MVP yet the guy who every team feared back then was the Rainman as he had the ability to quickly change the course of the game with those booming 3s.

          • Spinning Back Fist says:

            Ahh.. Ritualo. He aims his shots from chest. That will never work in the Pros. Ever.

        • WES says:

          I remember that season very well. I used to cheer for the BlueEagles that time for they were our sister school. Pre-season prediction was that ADMU on that year was supposed to take the 1st spot after winning the PBL title. Something went wrong in the first round, then the strong on paper image the BEs had that time were considered busts. For a while, those guys were considered busts, but when the 2nd round came, boom. The magic happened. The game when the archers were supposed to take that sweep, where Ateneo won it was just prophetic. That 2002 season was really epic. The 2nd unit made wonders for Ateneo that year.

          • Z says:

            gec chia bro, gec chia. probably one of those great unheralded eagles. he was discovered through the IAC, the collegiate intrams in the school.

          • WES says:

            Ah, yes. I even remember the interview asking him, Gec, you used to rule the gyms in Ateneo, how does it feel ruling the UAAP courts? Something like that. But let’s not forget my idol that time. Quimpo. He emphasized the smallest guy on the court has the biggest heart. From thereon, Ateneo always has this undersized who are making wonders. In this era, Emman Monfort.

          • batchoy says:

            “sister school”???

          • truth says:

            i would LOVE to have another admu-dlsu all star charity match!!! sadly it will never happen again because joseph yeo punched enrico villanueva in the face which almost ruined the whole promotion.

            but if they continued it, that would be epic and for a good cause. at least there you can’t say that the other team doesn’t have good players since both sides have an equal amount of talent in the pba.

      • Go Lasal sal says:

        At least noong dynasty years ng Ust (at lagi competitor ang dlsu noon) lumalaban ang Admu (1996 – biggest win ng weaker Admu sa stronger dlsu, 25 points na namiligro sa game na ito lol). 2002, stopped 5-peat by dlsu. 2008, stopped sweep by dlsu (13-1) and won the championship also, signalling change of dynasty.

        An admu dlsu game has had a lot more stake than what’s perceived and on papers. It’s when guys (not necessarily talented but) with a lot of animo and pride step up to the plate and deliver. Sadly, the same can’t be said of dlsu since 2008. Admu is extremely disappointed I’m sure.

        • Sixthman says:

          The aborted DLSU sweep (13-1) was in 2002, not 2008. 2002 was probably the last time both Ateneo and la salle had powerhouse teams. In 2008 Ateneo had a clearly stronger lineup than DLSU, and Ateneo ended the elims with a 13-1 record, their only loss dealt by FEU. DLSU had to beat FEU twice in the final four to defend their title.

          In 2007, both teams were evenly matched, but both their talent levels were higher in 2002.

    • voluntasDei says:

      2002 was the year when UAAP had a lot of strong promising players…

  • Follow through says:

    We tip our hats to dlsu – they played hard. OVA will be a monster once he gets decent at the stripe. Imagine if coach black got to mentor him.

    Big ups to JV Casio – a real dlsu class act deserves that first pick.

    And yeah tonino gonzaga is mister quality minutes this year.

    Fellow Ateneans, which player is more dreadful to watch? Bacon or Frank?

    • Z says:

      with those silly turnovers? i’d say frank. at least bacs got some use handling the ball and putting pressure on defense. i don’t really expect much offense from him. as for AVO getting mentored by black… well hanggang imagine na nga lang. sad to see him and torres coached by an incompetent big man coach in yturri. and yes, to my favorite DLSU player of all-time. one who did not throw punches, barbed words or such on the floor and off it, hats off to you and good luck in your PBA career Mr. Casio. it’s time to make them pros tremble with fear when you get the ball in the 4th quarter.

      • Navigator says:

        Ironic that Yturri was coached by Black at SMB during his PBA years. Too bad he can’t apply what he learned from the master in DLSU.

      • Follow through says:

        Yeah my vote goes to frank too – did he forget that jumping was part of bball?

    • jackbauer says:

      definitely bacon. golla gets quality minutes more regularly, plus bacon is in his last year.

    • Jesus Shuttlesworth says:

      Golla, because he gets so much time. Bacon is terrible, but at least it’s in small doses. I don’t know why they don’t use Erram instead of Golla. He’s raw but at this point he’s like a taller, longer Golla who can block the hell out of the ball.

    • KF says:

      Golla if only because he showed promise, and hustle, last season. Now he seems lazy.

      Bacon is and always has been a solid role player… any points he produces is just a bonus, is how i see it.

      • truth says:

        bacon was better before. if he didn’t make a good play, at least he didn’t make a mistake. this year has been a dip for him because he has more turnovers than minutes played. gonzaga has out-shined him this year and it’s a blessing because they have the same role. both of them were former big-men converted to guard duties. and we all know how gonzaga worked so hard to get there especially since bacon was favored over him skill-wise.

        • Z says:

          yeah talk about his days as a hardworking 6’0″ center for the eaglets who man-handled the baby tams’ frontline to submission. i mean speaking of zags. bacs always had it good. i wonder why his jumper left him though. maybe it’s still because his brain is still used to catching it in the post, then spinning back rather than catching it on the run, then popping it off-the-dribble. however, his defense has been impressive so i rest my case.

    • ANGELOFGOD says:

      We should talk to the coaching staff about this… They do more damage than what is visible to the naked eye….

    • Go Lasal sal says:

      Fellow ateneans pa daw, atenistas don’t diss their players. maybe la salle does, but not Ateneo.

      In answer, no one. In fact no one is worth bashing at all. Dreadful lol.

      • Z says:

        being a loyalist for your school and basketball team doesn’t mean you have to disregard the basketball fan and analyst in you. if you look at it, it’s a case of which is the lesser evil. heck, if only players weren’t so tall in bacon’s position. he’d be beasting it out like during our highschool days.

      • Follow through says:

        yeah we don’t diss fellow ateneans…we call it constructive criticism. we push hard and hold them to a high standard.

        way different from a bashing / blame game.

  • Yosi says:

    Kinulang lang sa oras…

  • Follow through says:

    And does maui and norbert shoot that bad at the FT line only during games or even during practice? It’s even better to foul maui than to let him get the basket

    • Z says:

      what can i say? the ritual and the form of this guy is worse than dwight howard. mas okay pa yung kay shaq eh.

    • Johnny says:

      They don’t practice free throws kaya lahat sila hindi marunong mag-FT. They only have therapy sessions for practice to minimize their injuries for the next game. :))

      Pero sayang, Tampus and De la paz were excellent FT shooters back when they were in playing for Letran and DLSZ, respectively. Now they’ve got the sickness of the other players being poor shooters.

    • svelterogue says:

      mismo, follow through. kahit ma penalty kahit anong team against la salle, basta si maui ang i foul mo. masagwa shooting motion niya, surreal.

  • Step Ladder says:

    What’s wrong with this Webb? He even picked a fight with Ateneo alumni behind the DLSU bench…grow up boy, and don’t forget to take your medicines.

    • Navigator says:

      Yun ba ang commotion just before the 3rd quarter started? Parang si Vosotros kasi yung may nakasagutan eh.

      • ateneoalltheway says:

        It was Webb after the singing of their alma matter. He’s immature, that’s all.

        • wobbegonglover says:

          Something’s wrong with the site? di pumapasok comments ko? ano po nangyare kay webb after?

          • eare says:

            hinagis yung headband at muntik nang sugurin yung alumni. buti na lang napigilan ng Araneta security kundi kalaboso dahil nandun din yung mga pulis.

        • wobbegonglover says:

          Oh? wow, so yun pala yun. was there yesterday, pero nakita ko na lang yung mga security ee, hindi ko na nakita si Webb at yung fan.

  • Crisostomo Ibarra says:

    I personally thought La Salle played the best basketball for about 2 1/2 quarters. You could really see how good this La Salle team could be with good ball movement,balanced offense stifling defense that forced turnovers and rebounds, but Ateneo is way too good. Imagine, with the absence of Slaughter most of the first half, they still managed to take the lead. It just shows how complete the Ateneo team is. They are heavily equipped with weapons and ammunition. I wonder how the other teams could beat this somewhat perfect combo.

  • calvin says:

    Congratulations to the Ateneo Blue Eagles for an obvious victory!…Maybe, the only suspense is whether they can sweep the eliminations or get waylaid by one of those bottom feeder teams…The incentive of sweeping the elimination is too enticing to pass up as what i have learned!…And that only puts another level of pressure to that team…But, another motivational tool to be used for them to stay focused on their goal and win it all!…Next off, the Fighting Maroons of my alma mater…

  • Johnny says:

    ADMU-DLSU games will never have its luster of crunch-time games if DLSU keeps on playing as if they don’t practice at all.

    • Army Green says:

      Pana-panahon lang iyan. Nung 1990′s it was DLSU, UST and FEU back then. Ateneo was always in the bottom 4 in those years. Call it their dark decade.

      • truth says:

        yes, but even though ADMU was at the bottom during the 90′s they’d still find a way to beat DLSU once in a season. That’s why people loved to watch ADMU-DLSU games because they used to really play like rivals regardless of talent and standings.

  • Navigator says:

    Did anybody notice if TGM/”Ang Berdeng Isip” was in attendance?

  • Madi says:

    Mas magaling pa si Gerald Anderson kaysa kay Simon Atkins. Mas lalong bababa ang stocks niya kay Kim Chiu.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD7NIByx8I4

    • Navigator says:

      Pero mas masipag pa rin manligaw si Simon kumpara kay Gerald, LOL.

      • red rampant says:

        Yeah, S. Atkins took a shot at showbiz but denied so his option was basketball. But basketball was not made for him.

    • red rampant says:

      I may agree. Atkins was on a wild shooting spree beyond the arc. I lost count as he missed every shot. He took those shots even he could see that Torres and Van Opstal was not there to secure rebounds. He even can’t play defense on Ravena. Way the go cap!

    • Yosi says:

      Wag na sya mag isip na mag pa draft mag showbiz nalang. Sigurado dun makaka ‘Score’ sya! Lol

    • Go Lasal sal says:

      Dapat siguro nag basketball na lang si Gerald at nag showbiz na lang si Atkins. Tapos si Casajeros ang contrabida.

      • eare says:

        oo, magaling ding umarte si Lord. PRAISE THE LORD!!!!

      • dlrt says:

        Rofl ako noong down UE by 40 points na, naka shoot si Lord over Parks tapos binaril nya siya, yon, na technical, lawl!

        Tapos, nahipan lang si Salva, grabe pa kay Ricky Hatton yong bagsak sa floor, wala naman tawag yong ref. Deadma sa best supporting actor award lawl

  • Sid says:

    I was impressed with Van Opstal, I think he and LA form a pretty solid 1-2 punch for La Salle’s future.

    Ateneo just systematically dismantled DLSU ala Spurs! It was fun to watch. What wasnt fun to watch was Bacon Austria’s play. He’s by far the weakest link for ADMU for the past 3 years. Sayang roster spot sa kanya. He’s a liability by all accounts. Coach, give Sumalinog/ng Bacon’s playing time!

  • Three Stripes and a Swoosh says:

    Watching the warm-ups, ADMU kept going for the basket while DLSU went for jumpshots. Story of the game.

    Sayang si Tampus, highest scorer of DLSU for the 1st half…and didn’t score again.

    Norbert Torres, if you want to help your team, stop jacking up threes and head to the basket. Score, or dish out to AVO.

    Maybe at the end of the season (in three games’ time), DLSU could work on their free throws.

  • bravo baste says:

    congratulation ateneo , your number 1 in the uaap

  • bravo baste says:

    hope to see the battle of champion in the uaap and ncaa , SAN SEBASTAIAN COLLEGE RECOLETOS DE MANILA VERSUS ATENEO DE MANILA UNIVERSITY

    • Z says:

      nah. mas gusto ko SBC. just to prove a point.

      • Spinning Back Fist says:

        Ateneo has beaten the Red Lions twice already. Isang dikit at isang tambak. And the Golden Stags beat the Blue Eagles, I think it was a Wednesday, at lunch time. I was there. I remember Calvin Abueva giving Juami Tiongson a big, hard pick, then stares him down. And I clearly remember the beast, though undersized, matching Greg Slaughter pound for pound.
        Last two minutes, I think lamang tayo nang anim. And it was Abueva via the freethrow who won it for San Sebastian.

        So yeah. I want the Stags, if ever.

        • of course you’d like that wouldn’t you? :)

          • Spinning Back Fist says:

            And that offends you? Dude, my team, for the last two years beat your team thrice.
            All I want is, somewhat revenge. Nanood ako live nun eh. I remember during the shoot arounds, Ronald Pascual approached Kiefer Ravena, hold the rookie’s right hand and whispered something. Ronald walked away smiling, while Ravena, Justin Chua and Tonino Gonzaga gave him dagger looks.
            And I just can’t believe how Calvin Abueva manhandled Greg Slaughter. Their match up was like the middle finger versus the pinkie, and the pinkie won.

          • Spinning Back Fist says:

            And may I add. The game started at 12:30 NN. Nakakainis, talo na nga, nalipasan pa nang gutom.

          • truth says:

            @spinning back fist
            your dream match will happen on the pccl champion’s league. Both teams are now secured of twice to beat in their respective leagues hence they are already eligible for that competition. provided that both teams take that tournament seriously, that their match-up will be interesting based on your observations.

            Ano kaya sinabi ni pascual kay kiefer? Lol!

          • Z says:

            well, TIDR, it won’t happen coz the stags, whether they be runners up or champions, will never reach the Final 4 of the nationals. plain and simple, off-season games are worth nothing compared to playing at the national stage at which they fail at. partida, wala na nga si Buenafe sa Ateneo pero nanalo pa rin sila habang kumpletong-kumpleto ang stags. so, walang silbi ang supposed match of the “champions” na inaasam ng mga usa. in the end, we all know kiefer will be far, far better than ronald pascual is now and he’ll be 100x the gentleman compared to that @$$.

        • amused is more like it. you were stating something obvious. honest comment. no need to be defensive. lol

        • golden slash says:

          Nandun din ako sir, last seconds the ball is with the blue eagles, unfortunately KR missed his jump shot.. great game din, i would like to see this match up again. Ian Sangalang played well against Slaughter, i even saw a play were Abueva put up a shot against the tough defense of slaughter, then boom, down goes slaughter and abueva scores and roars.. hehe. but Abueva clearly dominated Salva.. but great game indeed.

      • red rampant says:

        The original and longest rivalry for half a century were the San Beda Red Lions and Ateneo de Manila. These two shaped the Philippine basketball. Both are the current champions in their respective leagues. Both teams have high respect for each other. Both have the strongest alumni support. It would be more exciting to see both teams.

        • Z says:

          this. what RR said. seriously, ano ba naman ang baste sa rich tradition ng ADMU-SBC? jesus for crying out loud, let’s turn back time and watch chito afable lead the blue eagles against the hulk of the red lions down the middle in caloy loyzaga. those were epic times.

          • Dave Gwapo says:

            Gawa ka nang time machine. And stop using Jesus’ name in vain. Come on, Atenista ka ba talaga? Ako hindi.

          • Z says:

            sorry to disappoint you. i’m not that kind of atenean who likes to sugarcoat his words and act as if i’m an angel.

          • batchoy says:

            chito afable and caloy loyzaga were of different generations, sorry. try moro lorenzo vs. caloy loyzaga or chito afable vs. dave brodett

          • Miron says:

            Ang alam ko lang yong closed door game nila Watson, Israel, Puyat, Carpio, etc laban kina Yango at Frankie Lim. Charging daw si Valdez. Pero kung counted yon, back to back na naman sana Ateneo. The game before that, umulan ng baterya at barya sa Araneta lol. At sa Rizal at Areneta, may divider between schools. Masyadong war zone noon ang Ncaa, kaya umalis ang Ateneo at Dlsu. Fat chance babalik either school.

    • banned says:

      wow, congrats baste. 2 consecutive years as all filipino champs and now, this?! add this to your long list of championships. again, congrats.

  • r3xle0 says:

    teka muna brod, baka nakalimutan mo na san beda ang defending champion sa ncaa, so it wont happen. and di pa tapos ang season, why assume that your school is going to be ncaa champs this year. a 10-0 card doesnt guarantee you a championship. mahaba pa ang season. anything can happen. malay mo, masaksak si abueva sa inuman kasi makulit tapos naaksidente si pascual habang reresbakan nia yung bestfriend nia. all this happened while merong mid term exams sila ian sanggalang. di natin alam. so lets enjoy the season and cheer for our team. peace.

    • Takeda says:

      yes maaga pa sabihin na ssc na ang mag cchampion at ganun din sa ateneo. i’m sure even norman black doesn’t think that way.

  • Blue Eagle =D says:

    yow! congratulations Blue Eagles! ADMU did it again!… heheh.. nice game though! sana makapasok la salle sa top 4 para masaya pa din! punuin ulit ARANETA!….

    WIN OR LOSE ITS THE SCHOOL WE CHOOSE! =D

    ONE BIG FIGHT TO THE FINALS!!!!

  • halakajan says:

    Question, sino maaasahan and champ player of the game? Didn’t get to watch the replay na.

  • Travelling says:

    Kulang ba sa basics si Nico? O bum calls lang?

    Alam ko issue din yan sa Pba for a long time — yong first step na yon. Pero surely, sa tanda ni Nico, mahirap paniwalaan na di siya na train ni Badolato noong sbp pa siya, at specially sa Ateneo.

    • eare says:

      idol niya si Kobe, ganun din yung moves niya, kaso Professional rules sa NBA, hindi FIBA tulad ng sa UAAP kaya natatawagan siya lagi ng Traveling.

    • Go Lasal sal says:

      mainit lang mata ng refs sa kanya sa tingin ko.

    • DJ says:

      Salva played hoops for La Salle Green Hills before transferring to San Beda in HS, if I’m not mistaken. While LSGH has a decent hoops program with a traditional focus on combo guards/scorers (i.e. Paul Artadi), their player development needs more emphasis on the basics. Coming from LSGH myself, I’ve seen plenty of good players but sometimes they tend to be too flashy. Some were great slashers though, like the aforementioned Artadi. I guess that’s where Salva got his urge to slash with that dubious first step, hence, the traveling calls.

      • WES says:

        Looks like they lost some keepers. Nico Salva, Montecastro, and Artadi. Except for Artadi since that time the Archers had Mike Cortez. I believe the list does not end there. And my kukunin na lang DLSU sa LSGH si Ferdinand pa.

        • DJ says:

          Talk about it. LSGH’s hoops program was a mess back in 2006-2007. The entire starting five (including Salva and LA Revilla) moved to San Beda because of disputes with the coaches and alumni, I heard. Whatever the case was, it was a tough one for DLSU since they were eyeing Salva since his days with LSGH. It’s a good thing they still managed to get LA Revilla though.

          LOL @ Ferdinand. But he’s not DLSU’s worst pick-up. It’s that Serbian dude, Marko Batricevic (?). DLSU asked LSGH to develop the guy but the Archers never reaped the rewards. He was injury-prone, flat-footed, and was just not as good as advertised. Hindi por que Serbian, automatic na magaling. I’m not even sure LSGH won any championships in the NCAA when he was playing there. All I know is that Ferdinand was better than him and got more playing time too. DLSU’s own Darko Milicic.

          • WES says:

            Yep, Ferdinand contributed well with the LSGH. In fact, before the 2006-2007 issues, LSGH used to be better than the DLSZ, which had better alumni that made it to the seniors division. Oh, yes. I remember that Serbian too. Darko Milicic nga!people used to call the guy as lousy as, garbe time na nga, wala pang garbage points and rebounds. Garbage fouls and TOs pa. DLSU should look into that, IMO. Out of the 8 schools in the UAAP, it’s only ADMU and DLSU who have schools all over the country. So far, it’s only Ateneo who has integration. Ateneo system has the JAM, Jesuit Athletics Meet. Emman Monfort, Jai Reyes, other Blue Eaglets, and even Chris Tiu ata all played for the JAM. I think DLSU has an all-La Salle meet.

          • Z says:

            what i remember most about DLSZ is that Kiefer dunked on AVO in traffic. i can’t remember clearly if that was really a dunk or lay-up basta mukhang dunk na tumumba si AVO and kief just walked away, no emotions, no flexing, no nothing.

    • go lasal sal says:

      Your biggest loss was Kiefer. He didn’t even wanna step in LSGH. I know when the late Fr. Fermin of AGS accepted him in to Grade 6, he just came off of the same row with coaches and alums. Ganyan talaga ang environment sa La Salle hanggang college. So don’t be surprised if you lose homegrown prodigies, and all you will ever get in the future are from other schools (but never a BJ Manalo again).

      • DJ says:

        Not sure if it’s a loss per se if Kief didn’t want to be in LSGH in the first place. I think Macky Escalona was a loss, but not that big of a deal since he transferred to Ateneo in High School. Naabutan ko pa siya both in LSGH AND Ateneo. Anyway, that coup of DLSU “stealing” BJ Manalo is, and I agree, a one time thing. I was still in LSGH and too young at the time to understand the gravity of what happened but looking back, yeah, that was messed up. Bestfriends with Enrico and Wesley, and the fact that he was Ateneo’s best player (arguably), then went to DLSU. Unfortunately he had an injury-plagued college career but yeah, DLSU getting BJ Manalo from Ateneo made the rivalry more personal.

        LSGH lost a lot of homegrown talent not just to DLSU but also to UP and other schools. I don’t think it’s LSGH’s fault, but more on DLSU since these kids were being groomed to play hoops for DLSU only for the latter to reject them, hence, the apparent animosity. DLSU has some sort of bias for the Zobel folks rather than the Greenies in Green Hills.

        • DJ says:

          *…lost a lot of homegrown talent not just to Ateneo…

        • Yosi says:

          Bias against lsgh? Not really, its just that lsgh hasnt won a championship yet. Let’s just say until you do your players wouldnt be taken into consideration. That’s dlsu’s tough love since it only wants to get the best.

          I can also name dlsz players who wanted to study and play for la salle but people involved in the basketball program felt otherwise e.g. Fortuna, elorde, reyes, de asis and alot more.

          • Z says:

            martin reyes and migs de asis went to UP because DLSU got suspended for doctoring papers (hear that henyong berde ang isip?) and they don’t want to wait for a year to make their entry. well, little did them good anyway. reyes never starred. de asis disappeared after 1 year.

          • DJ says:

            There was a time in the mid-2000s when LSGH had a better team than DLSZ. We may have lesser championships than you guys but you should also consider that we have a tougher road in the NCAA. You Zobel folks worry about AHS, FEU-FERN, UST HS, etc. which are all traditionally very good teams. However, we worry about San Beda, San Sebastian, JRU, and a myriad of other monster high school teams in the NCAA not including neighboring schools like Xavier and Lourdes. So yeah, I think LSGH has an edge over Zobel in terms of competition. Our lacking the coveted NCAA juniors basketball championship is a double-edged sword – we may not have the distinction of perennial NCAA champions but the competition level has honed a lot of LSGH players and made them arguably tougher than their UAAP counterparts.

            What might have been: LSGH could have supplanted San Beda and San Sebastian (led by Ryan Buenafe) as the dominant HS team in the NCAA if the likes of Nico Salva, LA Revilla, and others did not jump ship. The LSGH hoops program was talent-laden, but messy at the same time. Politics. Oh well, that’s life.

          • Yosi says:

            I disagree. For the longest time lsgh hasnt beaten dlsz in major high school tournaments and inter la salle meets, so they cant be considered tougher than their brother school. Anyway, everything is stack in lsgh’s favor it being an all boys school with a population base twice as large as that of dlsz. All it needs is a good basketball developmemt program.

            The lsgh implosion you mentioned is happening right now in taft. If you ask me its because of the quick fixes being done and initated. Instead of developing players the school keeps on recruiting. Example why take out elorde who already had uaap experience over someone new? Kinuha pa si tallo! So who’s the unlucky archer who will be taken out just to accomodate him. How about the graduating players of lsgh and dlsz? Where wil they fit in the scheme of things? If la salle will keep on doing that then expect them to always be a rookie laden team!

            My devalued two centavos worth

          • DJ says:

            @Yosi

            Well, when I meant tougher, it did not necessarily mean better. We were a gritty team tested in the NCAA, I mean we had, say a burly, physical Vince Fran compared to a finesse guy in your Arnold Van Opstal. Sure Zobel won more in head-to-head matchups against LSGH but the latter always went down fighting. I don’t know, I guess its because we have our own inter-La Salle rivalry.

            Yeah, they should have let go of Mark Tallo and instead focused on developing Elorde. What’s Tallo going to do anyway? He’s a primadonna who felt entitled. He wanted, no, demanded, to be Ateneo’s starting PG, or at least the lion’s share of PG minutes. He was said to have told Coach Norman, “Why does Kiefer get playing time and I don’t?” Monfort has the PG spot locked down this season. If only Tallo had the patience, he could have been a better LA Tenorio. But no, he decided to leave taking his talents south (pun intended) to DLSU.

            DLSU has guys like Revilla, Vosotros and Tampus who can all run the point. Tallo is a good facilitator in his own right, with mad dribbling skills, but he is hardly someone DLSU needs. Your team is guard-heavy. Tallo there only makes it more complicated. That being said, Elorde’s going to be playing for the Hail Mary squad next year probably backing up Juami Tiongson at PG, if not share the position with him. That’s tough for DLSU, I mean, this wasn’t like the coup DLSU did with BJ Manalo, luring him with the promise of championships and prestige post-Ren Ren Ritualo. Elorde chose to transfer to Ateneo I believe, and Tallo’s recruitment was a big reason for him to leave. Elorde is a pure-bred La Sallian but what DLSU did was a slap in the face IMO.

        • truth says:

          I heard Escalona wasn’t even offered an athletic scholarship back then. he was salututorian in LSGH and was offered an academic scholarship in LSGH. He was able to hone his skills in Ateneo high school because Ateneo had multiple leagues that he could get experience in under the jr’s coaching staff.

          • DJ says:

            Escalona being offered an academic scholarship over an athletic one is proof that the guy is a student-athlete if anything. Student comes first, right? I think Macky would still have honed his skills at LSGH since the school is quite exposed to playing against the likes of HS stalwarts like Xavier and San Beda. LSGH also plays in the NCAA, which boasts of gritty and skilled juniors teams as well. I mean, Artadi was a pretty solid PG when he got to the college ranks. I guess it’s more of a preference thing.

        • ONE BIG FIGHT says:

          y

      • Z says:

        this was true. kief was bullied by parents for not shooting a basket and instead giving it off to a man who had better scoring position but did not make the basket. and good thing MVP went to his parents and told him he wants kief to be transferred to ateneo. the rest as they say, is history. hope thirdy ravena turns out as good as big bro when he goes to college with jay javelosa.

        • banned says:

          is this the same javelosa that played with kief, et al at last year’s exhibition against our red cubs? if it is, this kid is brimming is with potential. tapang! is he a senior?

          • Z says:

            yep sir B. that 6’4-5″ kid who’s only a freshman last year.

          • banned says:

            wow, he’s that tall? geez, this kid will be a nightmare to guard. aside from kief and von, it’s javelosa’s name i remember more distinctly from that game. and he’s only a soph? daaamn.

      • Johnny says:

        And if Nico Elorde steps up in Ateneo once he makes the first team after Monfort graduates from the team, the former will be another big loss to DLSU.

      • truth says:

        I think the LSGH basketball program has 2 problems. 1st is politics and the 2nd is acceptance.

        I was told that the reason LA Revilla and Nico Salva left LSGH was because the parents of the other players kept meddling with their coach. The alumni and the more prominent parents wanted their sons to have more playing time and the like. Hence they moved to San Beda.

        The next is acceptance because the basketball team of LSGH is recognized as the juniors team of St. Benilde. That is a slap to the face! LSGH is a legitimate DLSU high school. Not some mere sister school. The prestige is lost. NO OFFENSE but who pays attention to the Blazers really? Even the students of CSB root for DLSU. Now if you were a highschool student with basketball aspirations, why would you play for the baby blazers if you can play as a Blue Eaglet, Baby Archer, Tiger Cub, Baby Red Lion, etc. wherein the education is also good and the basketball recognition is even better?

        • Yosi says:

          Think of dlsu as parent that has alot of kids (lsgh, dlsz, usls, antipolo, lipa, etc) na hindi inaalagan at pinapansin tapos nag ampon (recruit) pa! Lol!

          • dlrt says:

            Very aptly said.

            And that’s the geographical advantage of a centralized school where all the units are in the same campus.

            Dlsu (taft)’s only advantage is the light rail transit being closed to it (if u even deem that an advantage) owing to the fact that parking is really a nightmare! I know that’s an age-old joke but it’s true and I’m not kidding.

          • What Everybody Said says:

            Ateneo has the Jesuit Athletics Meet. It’s where some of the Blue Eaglets play, Chris tiu din ata, and Emman Monfort. There’s some sort of familiarity within the Jesuit system.

        • pusang pula says:

          point taken, parang kung red cub ka, bkit ka magstay sa red lion kung my chance naman na maging blue eagle ka,green archer or to play for any UAAP schools!

          • huh? looks like you don’t know what you’re talking about, dahil kung alam mo, you’d know that SBC has it’s internal sports activities as well.

            obvously, hindi ka pusang pula. wolf in sheep’s clothing, puede pa!

          • defendor says:

            @ social climber, so why do you think that most of the red cubs players choose to play under UAAP teams during their college career? walang slot sa red lions? not think so, kasi nirecruit sila ng UAAP teams? pwede pero kung gusto talga nila mag stay mag stay sila, choice din nila na lumipat.mas maganda nga naman maglaro sa UAAP teams, mas makikilala ka malaki chance na makuha ka sa PBA,

          • Silence says:

            Reality bites…

        • DJ says:

          I agree. I mean, back in high school (LSGH), we weren’t even called “Green Archers.” Slap in the face nga. We were actually the first La Salle high school to be called “Green Archers.” Then they (DLSU) made it “Junior Blazers” and made DLSZ change from “Bengals” to “Junior Archers.” My high school may be playing in the NCAA as CSB’s juniors team but it does not mean we do not deserve the name “Green Archers.” What’s in a name? Pride for one, and second, acceptance or a sense of belonging.

          • Yosi says:

            Where did you get that info? Lsgh was not the first grade school and high school of la salle. On e upon a time dlsu had it’s own grade school and high school which they eventually transferred to alabang thru the kind donation of enrique zobel, an alumnus of taft gs and hs.

            Fyi, lsgh was known as the rangers, lipa as the stallions and zobel as the bengals when those schools started out. Sometime in the nineties, admin changed the monicker of dlsZ to junior archers. The reason given was to go in line with their senior counterparts in the uaap. The reason why lsgh was not allowed to use the monicker junior archers was an ncaa mancom mandate so as to differeniate it from schools in the uaap. That was deliberated by the bros but joining the ncaa far outweighted the name change. So there.

            Now, it is one la salle.

          • DJ says:

            @Yosi

            I came from LSGH, that’s where I got my info.

            Now to try to straighten things out:

            It’s good you brought up the now-defunct grade school and high school at Taft. Fact is, that very same elementary and high school moved to a spot along Ortigas Ave. (present day-Mandaluyong) where it is now La Salle Green Hills. 1959, IRC. LSGH became the primary elementary and high school institution of DLSU when the latter was phasing out its Taft-based counterparts. In the mid-80s, DLSU established DLSZ which is now widely recognized as their grade school and high school. The rest is history.

            I stand corrected (thanks). We were called Rangers (smh, I should have known, our elementary yearbook was called “Ranger”) instead of Archers. Nevertheless, the fact remains that we became DLSU’s juniors representatives until DLSU gave that distinction to Zobel when they moved to the UAAP. So what gives? LSGH could have moved to the UAAP with DLSU and continued its storied rivalry with AHS (minus the riots). And Zobel, well, they’ll be tested in the NCAA. LOL. But yeah, sayang. This “One La Salle” thing is good on paper but the reality is that there will always be a hierarchy among La Salle Schools. DLSZ will always be the premier elementary and high school of the De La Salle System because it represents DLSU in the UAAP, in effect, making it DLSU’s own primary and secondary institution. Can’t really blame DLSU though, they had to choose, and they chose Zobel. Ah, the bitterness. LOL. Makes LSGH feel like Cain to DLSZ’s Abel. Brothers nonetheless.

            At least LSGH represents DLSU, together with DLSZ, in the pre-season Fil-oil tournament.

            Anyway, “One La Salle” – yeah, good luck with that. Great on paper, tough to execute. FEU’s having the same problems with its four (maybe five already if you add their HRM institution in Makati) schools. FEU in Morayta is still considered the premier FEU campus. La Salle has a gazilion all over the country.

          • Johnny Blue says:

            The team of LSGH during my time was called Greenies. At least that was the name used by the media. And this way before your time when Mike Bilbao was still playing for LSGH.

        • ONE BIG FIGHT says:

          I agree. Sobrang politics talaga basketball team ng LSGH. I saw one of their games last week. Tapos mas pinapalaro pa yung anak ni Dindo Pumaren kasya sa mga solid na players in that team like Henson, Parreno, Umali, Santiago to name a few. Grabe nakakainis kasi may potential tong mga players na to eh. Sana ma scout to ng Ateneo coaches kasi we need real guards like these guys. Si Henson at Parreno parang si Monfort maglaro. Sobrang bilis.

  • Tax says:

    This is usually the part where we annoy the sh** out of the greenies. Not this time though.

    Good luck on your next game and the next season.

  • muralla22 says:

    rats ateneo…..there’s really a big chance that they can sweep the elims……as for la salle, kulang pa sa maturity ksi puro bata pa….may veterans nga sila in the form of villanueva and atkins, d nman nila kayang mag.lead

  • DJ says:

    IMO, DLSU should play a starting 5 of Revilla, Vosotros, de la Paz, Van Opstal and Torres with Tampus as the 6th man. Paredes and Mendoza back up the bigs. Youth movement – treat this season as a way to develop the Archers’ future core. Besides, the young guys seem to want it more and look steadier. I think Revilla is a top 3 PG in the UAAP. I like Monfort for his wits and hoops IQ but skills-wise, Revilla can simply mesmerize. The first-round game against us was a telling sign of what this kid can do going point for point with Kief. Slashing ability from LSGH combined with PG skills from San Beda, lots of potential for this kid. Vosotros is a good 2-guard and reminds me of a raw JV Casio (congrats btw, this year’s 1st overall pick in the PBA). He can stop and pop, catch and shoot, a bit undersized but fast. De la Paz is your utility guy and defensive stopper. He can shoot at the clutch too. The two bigs, AVO and Torres, are raw but have good potential. La Salle wasn’t kidding when they said they were going to bring in “trees” this season (not quite as big as Greg though). Torres can be a beast given his overall size. Parang Z-bo pa ang skill set, but he should do more on the rebounding end. Anyway, both Torres and AVO should develop post moves instead of face-up jumpers. AVO loves doing that flashy hop step then face up jumper 3-5 ft off the basket – not a high-enough percentage shot. Simple lang dapat. Torres, man, this kid should stay away from the three-point line. The 6th man, Tampus, is a blur and provides much needed spark off the bench given his energy.

    The vets have actually regressed. Maui Villanueva missed a lot of gimme shots, for one, and looks out of place for a 4. I don’t even know the role of Simon Atkins on the court. Webb looks lost against us (maybe he misses Buenafe?) and is easy to read/fish for charges, and Marata gives me that “Vince Carter” vibe – like, camping at the three even if he has a good shot at driving or shooting at mid-range. Of all of DLSU’s vets, Marata should be used more. That guy has the range, and with a little confidence, can regain his status as a potent scorer (maybe DLSU’s go-to scorer?).

    Just my two cents. Peace. One big fight!

    • Z says:

      it’s not even worth mentioning veteran leadership and the names marata, atkins, villanueva, webb in the same sentence. oh wait i just did. my bad. at this point, only paredes and mendoza are worth mentioning of leadership if we base it by years. i’m still a big fan of torres. if he just manages to play within 18ft and no farther, he’ll be a beast.

    • Anti-heat says:

      Here’s something to remember. You guys remember 2009 when DLSU was playing guys like Malabes, Barua and a bunch of others who weren’t producing? Franz actually removed them from the starting lineup and and replaced them with the rookies and sophomores. It worked! So the question now is why doesn’t Dindo replace guys like Atkins (who is becoming the 2nd coming of Bader Malabes) and Marata with guys like Vosotros, Tampus and De La Paz. I have the same answer as a lot off people out there. I don’t know!

    • Jesus Shuttlesworth says:

      Whatever happened to Mendoza and Paredes? I know Torres and AVO are tall, but I distinctly remember those two last year in an overachieving LaSalle team. (They didn’t look like they deserved to make it to Final Four but they fought the hell for that spot) They were also big reasons why they upset Ateneo last year. Now they ride the bench!

      LaSalle is really missing a good wing, and I don’t Marata has what it takes. He’s only good as a spot-up shooter. The fall of Joshua Webb is tragic because I really thought he’d be that guy after showing his potential in his first year. LaSalle has a good backcourt and their frontcourt has potential, but they need a scoring forward like they had with Mac Cardona and Cholo Villanueva to really bring them to the next level.

      • DJ says:

        Webb’s best games, I believe, were always against us when he was going one on one with Ryan Buenafe. They had some sort of personal rivalry. Man, the trash talking was off the charts as both kids are mercurial. I think Ryan being on the court motivated Webb to up his game. Buenafe is our best player (arguably college hoops’ best player), which makes Webb want to “show up.” Most of the time, he got Ryan’s number too, stat-wise. We still won most of the games, but Webb always seems a step-ahead of Buenafe. Against teams not named “Ateneo,” Webb tends to fall back down to Earth. Without Buenafe this year, Webb has fallen to some sort of obscurity. Some players are defined by certain rivalries and Webb is one of them. Maybe next year when Ryan returns to play for us, we may see Webb’s resurgence.

        • Z says:

          i remember his lone game in the seniors where he made a mark. but that was it. i think he got like what, 19 or 23 points?

          • Anti-heat says:

            Yep para bang Kwame Brown, in more ways than one. He had a great HS career but turned into a complete bust in the next level. He gets nervous when he passes and turns the ball over. He has butter fingers so the ball always slips out of his hands. He misses point blank shots and most of all fans or people who cheer for his team jeer on him because more than the factors above the guy has an attitude.

          • banned says:

            sayang naman. when i first saw webb play against sbc in the fil oil tournament, webb caught my attention with his style of play. very athletic kid. although for some reason, he can’t put that athleticism to good use. could be the attitude problem, he seemed to get caught up in the heat of the action more than just trying to play his game. i remember him taking off from more than 10 ft out to try and dunk it over jake pascual, which of course is a pretty idi0tic thing to do, as su was just waiting in the wings. if i remember correctly, he was even tossed out of that game as jake really got under his skin. sayang. i hope he starts to do well, i really think he can be the difference maker for this young dlsy team.

          • DJ says:

            He scored in the mid-20s, that was the 1st round game against us last year IRC. He was matched up against Buenafe, who was a step slower since, well, he got bigger. Webb just buzzed through Ryan with his dribble-drive and slashing ability. Webb was torching us that game. 2nd round though, Coach Norman put Long against Webb and he was effectively checked. I remember Buenafe wanting the defensive assignment and got his wish a handful of times. Webb was still checked. Kirk on Webb got the latter out of rhythm. His frustration was obvious.

  • Glowing Tigers says:

    15-0, This present roster of Ateneo are miles away from their counterparts. Sad to say for AdU but once Ateneo sweeps all its remaining games that team has no chances of winning at least one. Maybe if FEU faces ADMU maybe they could still one game but I believe that this basketball season is for Ateneo.

    • Spinning Back Fist says:

      I want to see the Soaring Falcons and the Tamaraws in a high bearing play off game!
      I want to see if the Tamaraws have learned anything since that disgraceful championship series against the Blue Eagles. And of course, I want to see the Falcons just to prove that they are for REAL, if they are really destined for something.

      • Sid says:

        I think ADU is really dangerous, they’re guards are monsters! They can definitely man-handle the Monfort-Ravena backcourt. But will they win against ADMU? Naahh…Maybe next year. But they certainly are a better team than FEU

        • Disser says:

          Last year sa playoffs pa lang kinabahan na ang Adu. This year pagtdating sa Championship “Ganito pala ang championship!?” wala na namn hehehe Next year dame na naman bago, start from scratch.

        • Z says:

          well, sid, monfort can manhandle lester alvarez and jerrick canada with one arm tied to his side. no bragging, but monfort is way out of their league in terms of experience, point guard mentality and veteran smarts. though i’m wondering how kiefer will handle nuyles, lozada and cabrera. i hope he does an eric salamat wherein he can guard any shooting guard without giving up any advantages even in the post.

          • banned says:

            z, that may be pushing it. monfort is an excellent guard but i doubt that a more people will agree with you that he is better than alvarez at this stage. alvarez has been playing well this year and after ust’s fortuna and feu’s garcia, i think i’d have to give him the third best pg in the uaap. revilla and monfort should round up the top five pg’s. imho.

          • Z says:

            well sir B, that’s my honest opinion. coz of his veteran experience and on-court smarts, emman pulls a white rabbit out of the hat sometimes. besides, what’s really going for alvarez is he is the main man of adamson. however, i’ve noticed a lot of stretches when he’s guarded by the pocket rocket that he struggles to score. and if scoring is an issue, emman may sure not score a lot of points, but he makes the other guys score a lot of points with those exact passes.

          • banned says:

            well i guess it’s the difference in our opinion of a true pg. though i am more than likely to see it your way, as i am a pass-first pg as well (or rather, was a pass-first pg. haha), it seems players are judged more by what they put on the score board than the intangibles they bring to the team. honestly, i used to hate monfort for his flops, but this was before he methodically destroyed me in an inter-village game. nothing but respect after that. haha!

          • DJ says:

            Monfort is a very, very smart guard. He may not be as skilled, than say a Jeric Fortuna, LA Revilla, or a Lester Alvarez, but he sure has a definite edge in on-court wit, experience, and basketball IQ. He has solid fundamentals and can break La Salle’s patented full-court press (either by fishing for a blocking foul or through sheer speed). He may seem erratic at times but he is the steadiest PG in the UAAP IMO. Great at picking the pocket too. In a one-on-one situation against ADU’s PGs, Lester Alvarez and even Canada may probably get the better of Monfort but it is a team sport and Monfort runs the Blue Eagles really well.

            The only PG I like over Monfort is RR Garcia but the latter is more of a “points guard” than a true point guard. Terrence Romeo can run the point at FEU as a true PG but has questionable, if not poor, decision-making. The guy can play though but needs more polish.

    • Glowing Tigers says:

      AdU is like FEU last year, NO CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE, if FEU returns in the Finals they have better chances of winning at least one or two games in the Finals assuming that ADMU gains a thrice to beat advantage because of the sweep(which is VERY POSSIBLE). I do believe FEU is more capable than AdU. But the bottom line is Ateneo has 97% chances of entering and winning that fourth straight title. The remaining 3% is given to Pessumal, Cipriano and Capacio doing a starting role at the same time in the play-offs.
      But Norman Black the coach that he is may not want to see his team choke in the finals, thats the last that he will do for the Ateneo Community.

      Yes, I am really counting my school out of the finals, this present roster of the Growling Tigers is not capable of winning a title. Maybe the La Salle game (sad to say) is the last hurrah of the Tigers.

  • WES says:

    Pre-season, all I’ve been hearing was how Greg Slaughter will dominate the paint and how Kiefer can shoot the lights out on everyone. 11 games past the season, not even close. Don’t get me wrong. From all the rave and hype, I thought Greg will go 3-5 blocks per game, with a 15 15 point rebound performance. And kiefer dropping 30 a game. That’s how I interpreted the rave. But, at this stage already, the contribution has always been a balance. Nico Salva and Monfort has never been this consistent and stable. Then you have a per game mystery bench guy who would show up big. It’s like having 5 James Poseys in a game. This is a team I hate to see losing. Everything is there na. Congrats to the Blue Eagles.

    • Sid says:

      Ateneo plays within a system, I think if you let Kiefer loose, he’ll drop 30 a night but would they win games that way? Probably not. Im more impressed with his court savvy, his demeanor, and his bball IQ than his scoring ability. He really doesnt play like a rookie. Compare him to the likes of Teng or Romeo who are happy jacking up 3s and going 1 on 1 on every possession, ang layo ng agwat ni Kiefer sa kanila.

      As for Slaughter, give him another year and he will dominate the UAAP, although I dont see him playing out all 5 years of his eligibility.

      • DJ says:

        I think Greg is a stop-gap if anything. He’ll play for us for a couple of years, including this season. Besides, he only has two years to play in the UAAP due to eligibility issues. 2-3 years he played for the UV Green Lancers, then a year of residency in Loyola, which gives us only two years left of Slaughter-ing the league (pun intended). Kief is the long-term “franchise” player. I’m actually looking forward to him playing next to a conditioned and re-focused Ryan Buenafe next year (barring any setback). That’s going to be a pretty solid combo.

        • Sid says:

          Is Buenafe still enrolled in ADMU? Sayang si Art Dela Cruz, he could have been a cheaper version of Mac Cardona (apparently with the same attitude problem as Captain Hook)

          • Dennis says:

            Attitude problem?

          • Z says:

            yes. Ryan will be back next year. he’s got two years left since this is considered a redshirt year just like chris tiu when he went to france.

          • wobbegonglover says:

            Buenafe will suit up for Ateneo next year? That’s pretty scary, considering that most of the core players of Ateneo are still eligible to play next year right? Si Long lang ang graduating this year di ba? wow, 5 peat indeed!

          • Z says:

            kirk, emman and bacs are graduating. i don’t know with tonino. he’s the same batch as me, kirk and bacs. well, to be modest, it will always be a fight for the championship.

          • wobbegonglover says:

            Well, good luck to La Salle. I’m really hoping that the team could develop the talent that we have right now, especially AVO who showed brilliance yesterday and Torres. I agree with your take on Torres, he really should stay away from that white line.

          • Z says:

            hope dindo get’s his brain figured out and gives santiago and yturri the pink slip. hells, get gee abanilla for all i care. dude, if torres lives up to potential, shaq yan. seryoso.

          • wobbegonglover says:

            I’m really not sure of letting the coaching staff go. But, I think that they should improve their programs, to fully train the players that we have now. They should review all of the previous games (special emphasis to the last 4 games) and formulate a game plan that would allow la salle to finish with a 7-7 record.

        • Satcho says:

          so lets see,
          given the circumstances…
          depth chart: feel free to edit and throw in your opinion

          G newsome tiongson elorde
          G ravena gonzaga pessumal
          C slaughter chua erram
          F salva golla *surprise
          F buenafe capacio *surprise

          • bubuchacha says:

            cipriano (G)? sumalinog (F)? si newsome sa 2013 pa ata.

          • wobbegonglover says:

            ano po yung surprise? :))

          • wobbegonglover says:

            what about Golla sir?

          • wobbegonglover says:

            oh Golla’s there. sorry, got confused with the surprise lol

          • Z says:

            newsome would play on 2013 pa. so…

            G-tiongson elorde cipriano
            G-ravena pessumal zags* (he’s my batchmate, but i don’t know if he’s still eligible next year)
            C-slaughter chua erram
            F-salva erram golla* (i rather play erram than frank right now)
            F-buenafe capacio

            warmer:
            estrada

          • With wings says:

            last year ni Zags next year. after niya mag-HS, nagTeam B muna siya before he was promoted to Team A in 2008.

          • Z says:

            ahhh the emman monfort rule. glad to see a batchmate is still going to play next year. now i feel old :|

          • DJ says:

            Next year’s starting PG spot will most likely go to Magic Tiongson. He’s not playing regularly this season probably because Coach Norman is doing his vaunted “Black Magic” on the kid – closed door training sessions, more hours in Moro, etc. He did that to Kirk Long, Ryan Buenafe, Rabeh al-Hussaini, and a slew of other players since he took over as coach of the Hail Mary squad. He will be a difference-maker in 2012.

            I’d like Ravena to play the point though, since that will be his position when he goes to the PBA or some sort of pro-league (NBA? LOL, a guy can dream). It’s good to start early. He already runs the floor well and has remarkable court vision. He’ll only improve in that position once he’s given the reins of the Blue Eagles. Tonino Gonzaga can hold the 2 guard spot playing Kirk’s position. He sure showed against DLSU that he can be our next go-to utility guy. Stat-stuffer, but most importantly, provides energy and hustle.

            My (fantasy) depth-chart:

            PG-Ravena, Tiongson, Elorde
            SG-Gonzaga, Pessumal, Elorde
            SF-Buenafe, Gonzaga, Salva, Capacio
            PF-Salva, Golla, Buenafe
            C-Slaughter, Chua, Golla, Erram

            Love the balance in the team. Lots of players who can play multiple positions. Heck, Buenafe can play 1-4.

            Most likely Ateneo’s depth chart next year:

            PG-Tiongson, Ravena, Elorde
            SG-Ravena, Gonzaga, Pessumal
            SF-Buenafe, Gonzaga, Salva, Capacio
            PF-Salva, Golla, Buenafe
            C-Slaughter, Chua, Golla, Erram

            Not much of a change, just bumped up Juami as starting PG.

          • banned says:

            so you think elorde will crack the team a lineup next year? at the expense of cipriano?

          • Yosi says:

            I’ll burst the surprise! My spider sense tells me buenafe will no longer be back next season. The reason given, he did make the grade ( as always). The other surpriae is that norman is eyeing a potential replacement from a uaap high school. Let’s just say for now he plays like a JC Intal. The kid is built like him too.

          • Z says:

            ryan will be back next year.

    • Z says:

      i’ll probably cry seeing the pocket rocket play his final game in that blue and white number 6 jersey with the ATENEO splashed across. no joking. this guy is a hero for the small players who worked on their game, improved and be the glue guy and trusted player of the coach. hats off to emman, this guy was a beast.

      WES, norman still has to work on greg’s post moves. and if he can do that to rabeh in a single summer, what more with greg in the offseason? besides, it would be fun to see an athletic big ala-japeth in JP Erram. mark my words, erram will star.

      • WES says:

        Z, what more in Ateneo de Iloilo. He is the best product of our basketball program to date. Everyone is just rooting for him. I can share you a stroy where he almost left Ateneo de Iloilo. If that would have happened, he would have not ended up with the Blue Eagles. There’s even a resto conceptually named after him. Hope you guys, didn’t take my Greg and Kiefer statements offensive. It was what I thought what people were expecting from them. But, actually, with the turn of events, I’m more impressed. Esp on Kiefer. He defers to Emman on games. Sometimes even ask for his approval. In the saying of the Japanese, he is this man who is only born every hundred years.

        • Z says:

          none taken dude. i was also hoping for a 20-15-5 from greg. but we have to be realistic. madaming tao for him to even score 15 is great already. di naman niya kelangan gumawa ng 20 every night. but i do hope he drops 30 on that crying manyara haha

          • WES says:

            Althugh, I must say, Z, I thought he was already developed. And that was the reason Ateneo took him even if he is good for 2 years. But after learning that there are still some holes in h his game, he could have not picked a better mentor in Coach Black.

  • Army Green says:

    “Bucking foul trouble that saddled its prized rookie center, the Blue Eagles manhandled the De La Salle Green University Archers 79-62 for their eleventh straight win in season 74 of the UAAP last August 28 at the Araneta Coliseum.”

    SLAUGHTER IS NOT CONSIDERED A ROOKIE!

    • DJ says:

      Jerwin Gaco was old when you guys had him. He also played elsewhere (PUP?) before DLSU. Nevertheless, he was still considered a rookie at the time. Why should Greg be any different?

      • Army Green says:

        @DJ

        Misconceptions about Slaughter being a rookie should be corrected.

        • DJ says:

          He sure isn’t a veteran of the Hail Mary squad. Officially he is a rookie as per UAAP rules. Personally, I think it’s just a label. The guy plays like a veteran, rightfully so, since he was initially from UV. I agree that his being a “rookie” in general is a subjective misconception if anything, but objectively, he is still a rookie in the UAAP. There’s nothing to correct really.

      • Sid says:

        Wow! Jerwin Gaco, I remember watching him and thinking, Mamang mama na to ah! Saan naman napulot ng La Salle to? Haha.

        • Spinning Back Fist says:

          Polytechnic University of the Philippines. Balita ko nga miyembro siya nang SI or Samahang Ilocano Fraternity dun.

    • Navigator says:

      Perhaps the term “First Year UAAP Player” is more appropriate.

    • Z says:

      ahhhh it’s been explained time and again. maybe we should have done this to your players who you guys picked up in PCCr or PUP, or JRU, or wherever. with that said, then maybe we shouldn’t have labeled RR Garcia as a rookie during his first year since he is not a rookie. please don’t be like henyong berde mag-isip.

  • Z says:

    WES, i don’t mean to offend you but yeah, ROY’s over, i think. you know how you can reach me dude since you’re such a sensible guy who reads. :P

    http://www.philstar.com/unblogged/blog-entry.aspx?articleId=721688&publicationSubCategoryId=516

    • Navigator says:

      The next question basically is: Will Kiefer Ravena be the first-ever ROY-MVP in UAAP history?

      • Z says:

        the first-ever was benjie paras my friend. he’ll be the second. but i doubt he’ll win the MVP.

        • Navigator says:

          Paras was ROY-MVP in the PBA, not in the UAAP (where he was never a regular season MVP). It was Eric Altamirano who won the MVP when the Maroons won their only UAAP championship and he was a 2nd or 3rd year player then.

          • Z says:

            ah right right, sorry my bad. PBA nga pala yun haha. ohhh didn’t know coach eric was an MVP.

          • Navigator says:

            Coach Eric was actually a fundamentally sound PG during his time and also a former national team player. A serious knee injury ended his playing career prematurely.

          • Z says:

            ahhh. wow thanks for the info Sir Navigator. and wow, so that’s the reason i didn’t see coach E in the PBA as i got introduced to basketball circa 95.

          • wye says:

            sorry Z and Navigator but you guys are both wrong. rich alvarez won ROY-MVP.

          • ang gulo ninyo says:

            lol, confused kau lahat. Ang alam ko sa Pba nga nag mvp roy si paras. as to altamirano being the mvp in uaap during that time? e nandon pa si magsanoc noon ha? sigurado ako mas magaling si magsanoc kay altamirano sa uaap. Ibang panahon si Rich Alvarez. Di nag-abot sa uaap yon mga yon.

          • wye says:

            ang ibig ko sabihin kung sakali manalo si kiefer hindi sya first time roy-mvp kasi nagawa na ni rich alvarez yun.

          • anggulo says:

            Not even. Rich was mvp (2 years) in uaap, not roy. He was roy in pba though. no one has been both roy/mvp in uaap. only Paras had so far been both roy/mvp (on same season) in the Pba. Yong nag roy at mvp later, madame sa Pba. Sa Uaap, si Enrico comes to mind. meron pang iba siguro pero di ko alam.

      • Sid says:

        I think the MVP voting is based entirely on statistics, if so, BRP or Mbeh would be the leading candidates

    • WES says:

      None at all, Z. If you would remember, I’ve already said previous posts ago that the ROY is not a race anymore and it has fallen under the concept of: the ROY is at Kiefer’s disposal. No problem. Kiefer deserves it more than any rookie. I believe in the guy’s capability. All I’m hoping now is we don’t have our own version of Ken Baracoso. A supposed senior superstar turned facilitator to the seniors. Congrats to Kiefer and the BEs! And he has the best mentor, Emman!

    • Anti-heat says:

      Not even the committee can stop him from winning rookie of the year.

    • aouie says:

      am just curious, is BRP eligible for the ROY award?

  • voluntasDei says:

    Tall, quick players who can run and drive… and defend well… that is all that ADMU is doing…

  • jb says:

    sana mg-improve ang la salle next year… lalu na free throws…

  • mecon says:

    intruiging yung tweet ni TGM ha.

    goodbye and good riddance. mmmmhhhhh

  • One & Done says:

    ghfgf

  • One & Done says:

    gfgfg

  • SK says:

    pwede pa namen tsambakin sila sa pccl o sa filoil. hihihi huhuhu

  • whitegraypoppy says:

    La Salle played satisfactory D, yet it was not in defending that they lost, Ateneo just played superb offense whilst La Salle – as I’ve oft repeated – just doesn’t have any offensive mind-set. Compare the 2nd chance opportunities they lost, missing pointblank. Compare the unguarded free throws they threw away, and do every so often. Again, it’s not defense, but the sheer lack of offensive firepower. They should get a shooting coach on top of a big man coach. The best offense is still the best defense in basketball.

    • Kay says:

      On DLSU’s free throw shooting, I think that “COMPOSURE” is the operative word. This is one instance where the players can shoot at will, without any distraction or hand on their faces. I am sure that ALL the players in all teams have free throw drills during practice… however, during free throws in actual games, nerves and panic could creep in, especially when the FTs are made during crucial moments of the game. DLSU lost to Adamson in the Second Round by around 5pts. They missed 6 FTs during crunch time. Tsk tsk

  • Miron says:

    http://uaapsports.studio23.tv/Video.aspx?videoid=194

    Mas excited pa ata si Boom kesa sa fans eh, “Making to look a push” lol, anu yon? Bago yon ha

  • meconbe says:

    btw guys looking at Paolo Romero, former blue eaglet, the guy can play and he’s not that bad but not really the superstar type of course.

    so whatever happened to him? did ateneo ever show interest in him? or was it entirely his decision not to join ADMU MBT?

    • Jesus Shuttlesworth says:

      Other factors could be at play like education and family. We can only really speculate that it was because in UP, he actually has a chance to not only play but start for their Team A. In Ateneo he’d have a hard time even cracking the lineup with a glut of forwards already at Ateneo’s disposable. Hell, they’re so deep that they had no problem replacing two of their rotation forwards from last year’s championship team. Not knocking on Romero’s talent here, I really like him and think he can really grow to become a great player. It’s just that I don’t think he would have the same leverage to grow if he had gone to Ateneo.

      • meconbe says:

        thanks for that. i also had that idea too. well I just think, nothing beats getting players from your own “farm”. i like the stories of the undrafted Ben Wallace, or the 56th pick Ginobili, you know “from zero at hero” stories. i still think he had a shot. but well they’re stacked up in there in Ateneo

        • Kay says:

          I agree with JS here. Paolo Romero is better off with UP because he is a starter there and can really help the team esp. during Mike Silungan and Jett Manuel’s “off days.” His early exposure will do wonders to the boy’s confidence. In ADMU, he may not even be fielded during the games, assuming he is already part of Team A. Look at Von Pessumal and Gywnne (spelling?) Capacio. I’m sure their time will come but not while Salva, Chua, Sumalinog and Golla are still playing.

      • Z says:

        it’s kind of when people were wondering, where’s shaq bugarin?

  • TDM says:

    heard through the grapevine: jong uichico will coach la salle next season

  • ang gulo ninyo says:

    Ang daya ng UP! Gumamit ng imports sa cheering. Puro blondes, Daya! :=)

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