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Saturday, 16 April 2011 5,467 Views / 207 Comments

LINING up without established players Emmanuel Mbe and Joseph Terso, many saw this National University Bulldogs squad as a one-man Bobby Ray Parks team. Against the defending NCAA champions, his supporting cast decided to disprove that notion.

Parks led four other Bulldogs in double digit scoring with 20 points while Robby Celiz canned a dagger of a triple to give NU the 83-80 win over the San Beda College Red Lions in the 2011 FilOil Flying V Pre-Season Premier Cup last Saturday, April 16, at the Arena in San Juan City.

It was NU’s second win of the tournament after its drubbing of UST, while San Beda slumped to a win and two losses, both coming against UAAP teams.

Parks also had eight rebounds, four assists, two steals and a block, while also making all seven of his charities. Denice Villamor poured in 14 to go with his seven rebounds, Gelo Alolino added 12, while Jul-Ashri Ignacio and Celiz scored 11 each.

Oda Adeogun had his usual double-double with 22 points and 11 rebounds this outing, while Garvo Lanete dropped 19, though he needed 15 shots to do so. Baser Amer had seven points, six assists and two steals in the strongest game of his rookie campaign so far.

San Beda’s full-court press worked wonders early on as the Red Lions held a 34-27 lead halfway through the second quarter. Celiz, though, scored via a layup when San Beda had just four players on the court due to a substitution error that got San Beda head coach Frankie Lim fuming.

That triggered a 9-0 blast from the Bulldogs, good for a 36-34 lead, but a triple by Amer and a pair of Adeogun free throws swung things back San Beda’s way, 39-38, entering halftime.

Both sides would trade baskets for most of the third, but NU didn’t buckle, which led their coach, Eric Altamirano to say after the game, “If there’s one thing I’m proud of, it’s their [the team's] composure.”

Instead, the Bulldogs would unleash a run of their own, scoring 11 straight. That prompted a timeout and a diagrammed play from Lim to get Anjo Caram an open triple before the end of the third quarter to stop the bleeding and cut into the NU lead, 63-56.

Though the Bulldogs’ run would continue in the fourth with back-to-back unanswered buckets, a 14-4 run, capped by an off-balance Kyle Pascual jumper, closed the gap to a solitary point, 71-70. Two Henri Betatene charities made it a three-point game, 73-70, but Garvo Lanete was there with a triple to knot things up with 4:48 left to play.

From then on, it would be back and forth basketball again. Adeogun took charge for the Red Lions at the two-minute mark. First, he dished out a nifty bounce pass to a backdoor cutting Kyle Pascual before scoring on a layup in transition to give San Beda an 80-77 edge. Parks then calmly rose up and hit a triple, though, to knot the count at 80 apiece with just 62 seconds left in regulation.

San Beda went to its rookie floor general, Baser Amer, with 44 seconds, but missed a triple. Anthony Semerad was there to pull down the offensive rebound, though. With 27 seconds left, Adeogun drove, spun in the lane, but had the ball knocked away. The Bulldogs then found Celiz, one of two former Rizal Technological University transferees now in NU, who knocked down a triple in transition, giving his squad a three-point lead with 5.4 seconds left.

After burning its last two timeouts, San Beda went to Lanete, who missed his three-point attempt thanks in part to the NU defense.

Though the Red Lions would move the ball around better, boasting of 20 assists to just 14 for the Bulldogs, NU had more than double the second-chance points of San Beda. W5

The scores:

NU 83 – Parks 20, Villamor 14, Alolino 12, Ignacio 11, Celiz 11, Betayene 6, Labing-isa 5, Eman 4, Singh 0, Neypes 0, Magat 0, Celda 0, Javillonar 0

San Beda 80 – Adeogun 22, Lanete 19, Lim 9, Amer 7, J. Pascual 6, Caram 5, K. Pascual 4, dela Rosa 4, A. Semerad 2, Villahermosa 2, Marcelo 0

Quarter scores: 16-17, 38-39, 63-56, 83-80


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207 Comments

  • yup…until an NC team beats a UA team in this tourney…i suppose we deserve to be called a minor league, regardless of whether this is just a pre-season tourney.

    the truth hurts? You bet your sweet !@#$%^!

    • another social climber says:

      Fil-oil champs

      2006 – La salle
      2007 – la salle
      2008 – UE
      2009 – FEU
      2010 – SSC
      2011 – ????

    • Escudo says:

      i wasn’t kidding, yes?

      Well, is fatigue coming in to play with the D-League and all? I am not looking for excuses, am asking, is it a factor? Rome seemed back by playing double figures vs AU, but again scored 4 here?!

      Surely, still no bragging rights here at the elusive Fil-Oil.

      At the end of the day, I say Animo San Beda!

    • another social climber says:

      The Finals of the Fr. Martin Cup is scheduled for March 20, 11:30 am at the Arellano Gym.

      1st Game:
      JRU 71 – Almario 13, Matute 13, Apinan 10, Lopez 10, Villarias 10, Mendoza 4, Monserat 4, Kabigting 3, Carampil 2, Dizon Jr. 2
      NU 69 – Parks 19, Khobuntin 11, Mbe 10, Villamor 9, Terso 8, Javillonar 5, Labing-isa 3, Ignacio 2, Neypes 2

      2nd Game:
      SBC 80 – A. Semerad 16, Adeogun 15, Daniel 12, J. Pascual 12, Villahermosa 8, Lim 6, Pontejos 6, Marcelo 3, Dela Rosa 2
      ADU 72 – Canada 13, Lozada 13, Camson 11, Alvarez 8, Colina 6, Nuyles 6, Manyara 5, Brondial 4, Cabrera 3, Petilos 3

      ua were also beaten last tour

  • Chic Bulls says:

    really the depending champs are the stags right

  • uuuhhhh, depending on what?

  • parks says:

    We can beat the best teams here like ADU

  • chic bulls says:

    depending on you

  • ish por da whining por your loosing da last game bersus UST?

  • wacky says:

    Yah, we are coming to terms with reality, don’t underestimate NU. It is not only Ateneo that is the team to beat here. NU seems bound for glory. Watch out this coming season UAAP.

  • another social climber says:

    We are not whining here, the ball is round, lets see what happens next time. bravo…great game UST.

  • parks, believe me, i’d love to agree w/you. but we still have to prove it, don’t we?

  • TheTruth says:

    Challenge na talaga to for the Red Lions to step up the game! Kundi sasabihan lang tayo na pang NCAA lang! Sa totoo lang may point din sila kasi natatalo tayo madalas ng UAAP teams. kaya Red Lions… GISING!

  • chic bulls says:

    tama ka truth, i agree with you. jet lag pa ata sila.

  • don’t get me wrong. but facing the realities that, although still at the early stages, NC teams are dropping like flies, it’s getting difficult not to consider the tag of being “lowly”compared to the other league, seriously.

    still, i agree w/escudo. it doesn’t change my inclinations for the team i root for. :)

    • another social climber says:

      your right there, but i like to see uaap teams beat ncaa teams by a wide margin to totally agree that uaap are much better teams. at the moment i still hold my conclusion this early till the next stage of the tournament.

  • chic bulls says:

    In a serious tone, SBC were beaten by 3 points each game. Very close games, so it is still not hopeless, unless teams beat SBC by more than ten points, then that is something to think about.

    • Popoy says:

      Whether by a solitary point or 50 points, a loss is a loss. No excuses.

      • banned says:

        i dont see anyone here coming up with excuses as to why we lost. what chic bulls is saying is that if teams are beating us by 10 or more points, then that’s the only time we should be concerned, if not alarmed. got it, poopy?

        • PG says:

          besides, it was just a lucky shot that beat the Red Lions. had it not gone down, it’ll be overtime and aanybody’s ballgame.

          • banned says:

            and besides that, it’s the preseason! where we are supposed to try out new things that may work out for us in our respective leagues. remember that we also lost last year in this preseason league to jru, who we beat in 2 regular season games in the ncaa by a very large margin. this does not prove anything yet.

          • Popoy says:

            Adeogun will not play this coming NCAA Tourney right? So whats the use in him playing this preseason cup? Trying out new things to be used in your respective league? Adeogun playing in this tourney manifests how badly san beda wants to win. They’re not preparing for the NCAA, they want to win this preseason.

          • Dennis says:

            Would you rather want him dominating midget team B centers? 1 taon pa siya matetengga might as well expose him to quality teams to sharpen his skills.

    • Wye says:

      Actually it’s like this, the top 2 or 3 teams of the NCAA can somehow match up well with the uaap teams. Problem is the bottom half of your league…I can’t see arellano, eac, jru or perps being relevant enough to pose much of a threat…and another problem is that the NCAA is becoming so predictable, San beda-baste Lang nanaman yan…while the uaap is really wide open this year. The rest of your league need to catch up to the talent level of your top 2. So top to bottom, the uaap is really the better league.

      • banned says:

        dont count out mapua and arellano just yet. uaap is the better league at this point, with much better competition. but why keep stating that over and over here? what else have you got to prove?

        • you were all yellow says:

          that…your admission…thank you…let’s move on. hope the other ncaa teams get sronger in the next few years though.

  • namesake…i hope you’re right friend.

    • another social climber says:

      sana nga, kasi di pa ko kumbinsido until the next stage. pero if it happens that no ncaa team beats a uaap team up to the tourney ends, then a conclusion can be made that really at the moment the ncaa may be an inferior league.

  • down – NOT OUT!!!

    of course we’re doing the ‘whole 9 yards!’

    i still have to recall a time we backed down from a fight!

    ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!

    • Escuod says:

      Partner I meant we be out of the League. Agree we never back out of a fight.

      ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!
      Go San Beda FIGHT!

  • wacky says:

    best you commit suicide

  • riverphoenix says:

    Parang walang gana maglaro ang Beda..kakainin ng Buhay ng Mapua Cardinals ang mga ito!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • mapuan15 says:

      correct ka dyan! hehee NU nga tinalo namin eh….eh san beda tinalo ng nu, eh pano pa? haha

      • Bedan # C-08766 says:

        do they not teach analogy in mapua? in san beda we have, PHLO1-Introduction to Philosophy with Logic and Critical Thinking..ü research on fallacies and while you’re at it look up “Non-equitur”..

        • Milo96 says:

          What’s Non-equitur? What has that got to do with the topic?

        • Escudo says:

          should be “Non sequitur”, a latin phrase meaning “it doesn’t follow” commonly used by the lawyers.

          • Milo96 says:

            Malay mo, there is something new being taught to San Beda. Bedan # C-08766 is proud to proclaim it implying that it isn’t taught in Mapua.

            He particularly asked mapuan15 to look it up when he could have stopped short at pointing out the fallacy in mapuan15′s logic.

          • Escudo says:

            @Milo96

            Following the line from Mapuan15 when he said; “NU nga tinalo namin eh….eh san beda tinalo ng nu, eh pano pa?”

            To which Bedan# C-08766 replied; “do they not teach analogy in Mapua?” so the argument of Bedan# C-08766 when he used the Latin phrase “Non-equitur” wherein he inadvertently omitted the letter “s”, really means “it does not follow” in Latin, that “Mapua beat Nu and Nu beat SBC” ergo Mapua will beat San Beda.

            He may have asked Mapuan15 to look it up pointedly. But I submit to you that there is no such Latin word as “Non-equitur”.

            Perhaps you ought to ask him why he didn’t stop at “pointing out the fallacy in mapuan15?s logic.”, as I cannot answer for him. I merely pointed out the lack of the “s” in the word. Thus prompting your reply.

            Lastly, I doubt if there is something new being taught in that area at San Beda.

            Cheers.

  • iamvincejerome says:

    i was surprised by the game showed by the NU Bulldogs. Congratulations NU. nag improve na talaga kayo ng sobra.

  • JudyVans says:

    Analysis:

    Neypes and Labing-isa:
    I’m really disappointed in both of them. Labing-isa seems to be too small to play PG and is easily pressured and harassed by Amer. Labing-isa is a worse ball handler than Fortuna. Neypes on the other hand is super passive. Sayang ang length and athleticism niya. All he can do is to run and pass on the court.

    Eman:
    Looks like a 6’7″ clone of his brother.

    Ray “the phenom” Parks:
    This kid should be named as the phenom. You can see that Parks wasn’t forcing his way at both ends in today’s game. If Parks is a car, he’s got the specs of a Ferrari. It’s just the driver of the car who needs to learn how to maximize these gifts. Offensively, he has shown that he can be a really good finisher. So good that one player from Beda gave him a flagrant foul just when he was about to dunk over him. He keeps flashing at the middle, and it attracts not less then 2 to 3 players from beda that gave his teammates open looks.

    Going down the stretch when the NU was down 77 to 80. Parks nailed a three point jumper that was way beyond the three point arc. Then he got a big block against Beda’s import, on the defensive end. These two big plays just shows how big of an impact Parks have on both ends of the court. On the offensive end, he can attract defenders and can score using his array of mid-range moves, including a nice looking floater. Or shoot from the outside with his really nice shooting form (but has struggled in the last two games). At the defensive end of the floor, he’s a really good rebounder and his length and athleticism makes him a good one on one defender ora help defender.

    Still, I do think Kiefer’s game is more polished than Parks. Although the bright side is that there is evidently A LOT of room for his game to grow. The potential is really there.

    The whole NU Squad:
    Looks rusty, especially with their halfcourt set. Their offensive sets looks pretty much the same from last season. There were a lot of turn-overs from the San Beda’s fullcourt press, although Parks and one of the PGs (??), handled it fairly. I think this game wouldn’t have been close with Mbe and Terso in the game to limit Beda’s import’s dominance and limit NU’s turn-overs.

    • Anti-heat says:

      Very good analysis there

    • Escudo says:

      Nice one analysis, though you contradicted yourself when you premised that “This kid should be named as the phenom.” then ended with “Still, I do think Kiefer’s game is more polished than Parks.”

      No offense meant, but you sound unsure yourself. Parks is a very good player, have seen him in our tune up games prior the NCAA Finals last 2010. Bobby has loaded his son with his genes. :)

      I wonder why Jake was benched if he was there. I couldn’t see the game though.

      • banned says:

        jake played a lot of minutes. but kyle stepped up and started playing pretty well so he got jake’s minutes in the end game. still a lot of unorthodox lineups used today.

      • Red Cafe says:

        We really played bad. Congrats to NU anyway.

        • banned says:

          turnovers did us in again.
          on the upside, ola is starting to show more defensive skills out there. baser is steadily adjusting and improving. he should be ready by the start of the ncaa. melo is now a deadshot with his quick release 3′s.

          • drug pusher says:

            forget about ola. he will do his usual double double stats win or lose. how about the rest??? only lanete scored in double digits. im so frustrated here.

          • banned says:

            drug pusher, no need to get frustrated, sir. it’s the preseason. did you watch the game live or are you just reading about it here? we experimented on a lot of things. the lineup, a weave play that kept on getting called over and over again (none of our bread and butter high-low plays, etc.), substitution patterns, etc. there’s a lot of positives that can be taken from this game. teams will have to spread out their offense with the emergence of another prolific shooter in melo, gabo’s continued scoring, the improved toughness of kyle, jake learning to play his role better and better each game. don’t worry, bro. this is what the preseason is for. animo!

        • Anti-heat says:

          Ola is similar to Blake Griffin, Kevin Love and Carlos Boozer in that while they maybe able to get 20pts and 10 rebs every single game they don’t protect the basket. Good thing for Boozer Noah is doing it for him. I think having Su roaming around the shaded lane made people double think about slashing to the basket clearly something Ola lacks, for now at least

          • banned says:

            there’s still hope for him, ah. i see a glimmer of hope for his defensive capabilities. you should have seen his block on a dunk attempt by bobby ray. he blocked the attempt with both hands and came down with the ball. i hope he develops into a sam ekwe-type of defender by next year. right now, his offensive prowess is being mightily displayed, but it’s not really that badly needed with a bunch of scorers at our disposal. looking forward to a win before our team flies off to for their summer training.

          • Escudo says:

            banned,

            I used to call Ola, “Kankarot”, that’s how he played then. Even told RC, “what’s whit the guy?” Boy, was I badly mistaken. Yeah Ola will be a great athlete, he has the attitude and athleticism. Actually, he is a very, very nice person among us. He always ribs Frankie’s youngest son, Tyler. They are Bff’s.

          • banned says:

            yes sir. though i haven’t had the pleasure of actually getting to chat with him, he always seems to be well mannered around us. i see him joking around with his team mates a lot. i always knew he was a gifted athlete, but a great ball player this early? that i did not really anticipate. great job, sbc coaches, for his development. he is a star in the making.

          • Anti-heat says:

            @banned

            I know but he isn’t giving what San Beda foreign bigs have given in the past that pushed the team to the top. San Beda is loaded with scorers already (to all “import haters” out there San Beda has 2-3 guys that score and play more minutes than the “imports”) that’s the last thing I think they need from him. Look at the Celtics after Perkins left it’s the same thing here when players aren’t threatened to go inside it opens to a lot of opportunities. Well good thing is he has a whole year to develop it and will Sudan still be there the year he plays?

          • banned says:

            nope. su will be out by the time that ola gets to play next year.

          • Anti-heat says:

            @banned

            Thanks for the info. Another thing to note though @drug pusher has a right about to feel concerned about scoring balance. It’s like this let’s say SBC has 60 field goal attempts in a game you give at least 15 each to Ola and Garvo so after that 30 shots remaining, you give another let’s say at least 20 to Amer, De La Rosa and Marcelo so only 10 shots left for the 7 guys remaining. Ola’s scoring efficiently but it’s hurting the teams’ balance in scoring compared to a Su who sometimes take 8 to 10 shots at most.

          • Escudo says:

            @A-H Either that or we hit scoring in in 90′s to 100′s range to spread that scoring balance. It would mean more possessions for the RL’s though. And that means the opposing teams will score a little over half. Scary thought, domination. That is if.

          • Anti-heat says:

            Yeah but the problem with that is teams need defensive stops to gain possessions and that’s what Su gave San Beda the whole tournament last year. Whenever the wingmen got beat off the dribble he made them think of going strong to the basket. Another positive he contributed was he wasn’t always the no.1 option on offense, in fact a lot of times he only scored on put-backs or fast-break points. That gave the locals more chances to opportunities to score. Defense started everything for last year’s team so they need to tell Ola to focus on that above all else if they want the same type of balance they had last year.

          • Escudo says:

            @A-H

            My case in point in today’s game of Maynilad vs Powerade (is it the UP team?), if that is the type of scoring balance, its scary for the opposing teams in the NCAA.

          • Anti-heat says:

            Yup I know it’s what makes the Red Lions cool to watch. That’s why as I’ve said Sudan is the perfect import he’s going to dominate the defensive end and let his team mates do the damage on offense. That’s the problem with Ola’s entry he’s giving scoring to a team that has a lot of it but gives little defense compared to Sudan. Defense leads to possessions and that’s why the RL were as successful as they were last year.

          • drug pusher says:

            @banned/A-H

            sorry for the frustration and i know its bringing a negative vibes to the RLs. Thing is, yes its a preseason tourney and franky’s experimenting on a lot of things. Isn’t this a great opportunity to sit Ola and give more time to our other bigs? putting into consideration the possibility of Su not being able to play this season. I mean, what if? No Su, No Ola. If the rest won’t get the feel of shooting the ball more and getting into plays now then i don’t know whats going to happen this coming season.

            please enlighten me.

          • Captain Pogi says:

            su has better timing than ola. when ekwe first came he was blocking a lot of shots but at the same time commits a lot of defensive goaltends. he minimized the goaltends as his game develops later on. but sudan’s timing is impeccable. imagine averaging 10-11 blks against perps. i wonder if he had personal grudge with the altas. i know aldeguer’s team is less competitive but cmon 10-11 blks per game?!

        • Escudo says:

          RC, Melo 18 pts at the D League. He will be a threat at the NCAA games.

          • banned says:

            melo!! melo’s tearing it up! way to go, kid. show em the heart of a lion.

          • banned says:

            Borgie Hermida debuted for Maynilad with 10 points and 10 assists while Jake Pascual scattered 20 points and grabbed 11 rebounds for the Water Dragons, who bounced back from a 67-77 loss to the FCA Cultivators last week for a 3-2 (win-loss) card. >> from philstar. boy, am i glad to see borgie back in action.

          • Red Cafe says:

            That will surely be a welcome treat for all of us.

  • Anti-heat says:

    Wow. I’m observing something here. NU the past 2 games played tremendous defense they let another team play ugly and come out on top. Bobby Parks is playing like a mini LeBron and unlike the first game got the help he needed to close out the game. I’m really curious with the lineup Frankie Lim is putting out there. In my opinion isn’t it more wise to have Sudan (assuming he isn’t injured) out there instead of Ola? How will players like Baser Amer develop chemistry with him if they aren’t playing together in an actual game?

    • banned says:

      su didnt play. but yes, coach frankie seems to be tinkering with the combinations and even the plays and defensive patterns. lots of holes right now that needs to be patched up.

      • Red Cafe says:

        banned- You ought to join us with Escudo chill out with the lions once in a while.

      • What Everybody Said says:

        Wouldn’t playing in so many pre-season tournament bang up the bodies of the RLs? I think they are the team with the most preseason tourney. Not only do they play the entire elimination round, they even reach the playoffs of every tournament, and my bedan friend even told me, no matter the bearing of the game, the team treats it like any other. Meaning they play the marquee players. Would it not hurt the team? But I believe this has been a practice of theirs ever since.

        • ESCuDO says:

          WES. that is why if you noticed the newer players are on the longer rotation than the veterans. That’s what I observed at least at the Fil-Oil.

        • Dennis says:

          Kaya nga e. Parang mas marami pa nga silang games compared to some PBA teams lol. And I believe may training pa sila sa US this summer. Plus may practice pa in between games. Grabe pahirap nun.

        • What Everybody Said says:

          @ESCUDO My Bedan friend told me that the player rotation in other tournaments are like the NC rotation already. I’m not sure about his facts though

          @DENNIS True. I think they have the most number of games played than any other school team. hhmmm. this one’s a double-edge. But hasn’t this been a practice already of the team before? Or this year’s entries to different tourneys is the most in years?

          • Escudo says:

            That is why they didn’t join the new Fr. Martin’s again. Just the D-League and Fil-Oil and the NCAA. I think mas “kabayo” sila now, so it would look like a walk in the park during NCAA season. I didn’t mean that the NCAA games would be a walk in the park, I meant that would be the only tour they will have, lighter sked/load so to speak.

            After the game this week, they fly off. Unless there is another tour I dont know. The man who will know is RC.

          • What Everybody Said says:

            Ooohh. ‘Cause RC’s part of the coaching staff? Haha. Let’s see though how they would execute those plays during the NC games. It would definitely set off every fan of the team if they won’t be able to execute well.

  • banned says:

    congrats, NU. great game. in my opinion, coach eric won this for you guys. well done, coach.
    my impressions:
    labing-isa – will be a great pg someday.
    neypes – over rated. he literally didn’t do anything out there.
    parks – good as advertised. if NU makes it to the final four, he should be in serious contention for ROY-MVP honors.
    alolino, celiz and ignacio – should provide a lot of support that bobby ray will need in the uaap.

    • Escudo says:

      Eric is a Bedan too, lets not forget the former Red Cubs.

      • banned says:

        his assistant, coach vic ycasiano is also a bedan. didnt even know that when he coached our village’s team for the nike intervillage a few years back. way to go, bedans.

  • red guard says:

    Regardless of how the losses happened, still concern must be raised re the frequency it has happended lately.Just a couple of months ago we were beating NU and other UAAP teams with regularity in practice games last year. I have to say that Coach Altamirano also made the differnce today.

    The losses can be atributted to fatigue,Su’s absense,Baser’s adjustment,different line ups in different leagues hence chemistry issuees,etc.It is also a forboding of things to come, that everyone and everyone regardless of league will bring their A-Game to bear once they play us, the price of going 18-0. This also leaves us open to “NC is the inferior league” debate but loses are loses. If we cant win we have to take our lumps..

    Still if this time is being used for different combinations differnt plays and strategies for the coming defense of our 18-0 Championship then its so be it.But it hurts

    Animo!

  • bigf9779 says:

    it was a great game indeed, a real heartbreaking game that has been decided in the last seconds of the game…congratulations to the NU Bulldogs, but still there a lots of things to be improve, it was really a scary number of turnovers…Bigthanks to that team effort and BIG 3 in the last play…its still a long way to go…ONE BIG BITE!!!

    i have to say congratulations also to San beda team for giving a big fight…and for all the alumni and fans of beda…nothing to be ashamed of…i believe your still the “KING” of NCAA!!!

  • ponky alolor says:

    the harsh truth is, from the nc schools only sbc and baste can really compete head to head against uaap schools. e.g in terms of good recruitment etc. so other nc schools must catch up. im glad mit is finally up to the challenge.

    • Wye says:

      Exactly man…I don’t get what the argument about that is. I have been saying for five years that the uaap FROM TOP TO BOTTOM is far more talented and more competitive than the NCAA. Ok so San beda and baste are really strong but eac csb arellano perps jru are seriously lacking talentwise. UP, the winless uaap team, even has a chance to enter the f4 of the NCAA. Whew..I can’t see the argument really.

  • ????????? says:

    let’s go bulldogs.

    one big bite.

  • FINALS NU vs ADMU.filoil. UAAP season 74 the same din..

    • 4peat says:

      Hehehe I hope so, but DLSU beat ADMU in Dubai.
      This is a real loss!

      • waka waka says:

        hindi ata pwede un kasi pareho sila ng group. semi final match pwede siguro…

      • Anti-heat says:

        @4peat

        Yeah but that was without Greg Slaughter so I can’t gauge that as a really good win

        • 4peat says:

          From what I hear, it was a good loss; just like saying it was a good death.

          The truth is, even without Slaughter they played well, but were unfamiliar with what some DLSU players could do. They could have won too.

          Too quote the mgt and Coach Norman, ‘no excuses! They (DLSU) played well.’

        • Anti-heat says:

          I’m happy on how they played Ravena though. I’m sure people are now gonna say “oh he’s not the good player we thought he is” and “chamba lang yun sa San Beda” but he just had a bad day which even some of the greats have every now and then I’m sure he is looking to exact revenge when they play against each other in the Fil-Oil again.

          • 4peat says:

            Again, let us remind ourselves that this is the beginning of a post-Salamat/Buenafe era. Its no longer the same team and system; at least, not the same.

            DLSU will just make Kiefer a better player, or perhaps, even in that game, he wsa just far too smart.

            Let’s see how Parks will intimidate Kiefer.

            I am not very sure that DLSU will be in the Final 4. They have more weaknesses than what has been made visible. Thus far, everyone is thinking and changing their thoughts game by game.

          • banned says:

            AH, just as i said about baser before, haters will just be looking for that one bad game from kiefer to say that he’s a bust and that was merely a lucky game. we all should know better though.

          • Anti-heat says:

            @4peat

            Agreed. Unless our bigs develop into actual post players. The Final Four spot is a pipe dream for now. That being said we are pretty deep on guards so the press should be more effective. In the end though it will come down to the one thing that has been haunting DLSU the past few years. FREE THROWS.

    • PG says:

      I’ll put my money on a gang of archers staring our blue eagles on the other end of araneta come october.

      • Anti-heat says:

        Ateneo can and I think will do it’s part. I’m not sure if the Archers could do the same.

        • banned says:

          with what i’m seeing, your team will be right up there.

        • 4peat says:

          Too early to say too.

          Teams who have a very, very strong desire to be in the Final 4 will make it. It seems ADMU has been relying much on experience.

          This is my prediction for the UAAP: It will be very physical, and every team will have a bias for DEFENSE!

        • Anti-heat says:

          Actually when you think about it, FEU has the lineup to match and even beat the Eagles. Garcia, Cawaling, Ramos, Romeo, Noundou, New import, Knutel, Tolomia and the Bringas Brothers. That’s pretty deep right there. Doing it in an actual game though, is another story.

          • What Everybody Said says:

            The new imports stands at 6’11″ although some Tams fans I know admit that skill-wise of this foreign student athlete is not yet polished.

          • What Everybody Said says:

            And yes, I agree. Tams still stand next to the Eagles.

          • banned says:

            so cervantes really is out for this coming season?

          • Anti-heat says:

            @Banned

            Yup looks like it.

          • Doug says:

            I’m curious to know if Bert Flores will instill new system since the departure of Coach Glenn. They’ve had an impressive unit in the past seasons but they are still yet to remove that monkey on their back. They usually start strong only to finish short. How many times did we see them eliminated by lower ranked teams during Final 4?! No offense to FEU followers, but I see them as the Dallas Mavs, once they get there on top, they struggle and seem lost. Sounds a Choker to me. It’s just my two cents worth.

          • What Everybody Said says:

            In my opinion, the Tams will have and might have had a better shot at the title if Bert Flores were their coach.

          • 4peat says:

            There more people, coaches and former players, helping FEU now.

          • Why is Norman Black? says:

            it’s just too bad that they are not the team to beat anymore. it’s really ateneo, adamson and NU for me. These three have the best coaches as well.

  • Captain Pogi says:

    i miss you sk… i take that back.

  • Mark says:

    I feel optimistic about the upcoming season. More than half of the starting five from last year have graduated and the two that are left hasn’t played the past 2 games, yet they came out on top. Khobuntin, Javillonar and Magat were also non-factors. The players that contributed heavily in this game are the newcomers which is a sigh of relief.

    Celiz and Villamor are making up for the lack of production from highly touted Neypes. I wonder what’s happening to him? Hit a rookie wall already? And Labing-isa, there’s a bit of a logjam at the PG position, and Alolino may have a chance to steal the 2nd PG spot from Labing-isa.

    Also, glad Eman played in this game. I was worried he may have went back to FEU already.

  • 4peat says:

    Well guys, it always pays to be objective and real in our observations and conclusions.

    Do not forget: Parks is an african-american who plays african-american basketball and who presumably is as physically strong as an african-american athlete. One-by-one he is intimidating the best players of the teams they have played against.

    Altamirano is figuring out every coach it seems.

    Personally, I think NU will go for the Championship this year and if successful will defend it when the Sys open their own Dome.

    Let us Thank God all these are happening now.

    Finally, DEFENSE! All teams and players must be equally competent in defense first and offense too.

    Let us also be grateful that Phil. College Basketball is significantly better.

    • bigf9779 says:

      nice observation sir…but still its a long way to go for the Bulldogs…a Final 4 goal is much better and if given the chance a crack in the finals…ADMU(intact and powerhouse line-up and talented rookies), DLSU(great recruitment as well), FEU(still with the same line-up), ADU(team to beat/veterans) were the teams to beat this coming UAAP season, not to forget surpises from UP, UE and UST….every team had a chance…sure it will be a great and exciting season for all…

      GO BULLDOGS! ONE BIG BITE!

      • 4peat says:

        Your team and DLSU have the ‘unknown’ in your side. Unlike, ADMU, FEU, ADU … coaches and players are very familiar with these teams…. But of course, that is just one angle to it.

        Secondly, you have Parks and DLSU have Torres whod did a lot against the Blue Eagles in Dubai.

        • wye says:

          the most significant advantage of NU i think is their coach…eric altamirano is a first time coach in the uaap (and i believe the collegiate level) but he is more experienced than all the coaches sans black. he has won a title or 2 in the pros before being replaced by ryan gregorio and taking over the youth national team…and he has been succesful in that endeavor too. the best thing about this is that he has coached the likes of kiefer, ferrer and teng to name a few and he knows what their strengths and weaknesses are. it would be a definite surprise to not see the bulldogs in the f4 this year and it wouldn’t be a shock to see them enter the finals and win it all.

  • SK Daw says:

    Weeeeee! Panalo kame! layas kayo!

  • SK Daw says:

    Ako muna ang papalit kay SK habang naka bakasyon muna sya. Mga talunan kayo lalo na ang beda! Hate! Hate! Hate!

  • Outback Outlaw says:

    Would love to see a Pinoy version of Lebron James. You know, Someone big, heavy, but ridiculously fast. Can score on any hand, but prefers to pass majority of the time. Then brings an underachieving team to greater heights, then makes it to the national team.

    In other words, kabayo. Hehehehe joke. I mean the “Total Package”.

    I hope Bobby Ray is good enough to be that.

    • PG says:

      certainly he is man! it’s just the supporting cast that is shady. if it remains shady, eh LeBron James nga, back when he was a cavalier. questionable supporting cast plus a freight train of a player.

      • Dennis says:

        Shady ba? But I heard that they are the best that money can buy!LOL

      • Outback Outlaw says:

        Hindi Ko pa siya nakikita maglaro eh, lahat nababasa ko lang. And we all know, the Fil-Oil is not the UAAP. I’m pretty sure that the National Bulldogs will not win the UAAP crown this season, But I would love to see them try, with Parks leading them.

      • banned says:

        bro, i think you’re selling the supporting cast short here. alolino, ignacio and celiz played really well. bobby ray didn’t impress me as much as kiefer did. he had a lot of times when he was stagnant on offense.

        • banned says:

          don’t get me wrong though. bobby ray is a great player, it’s just that kiefer’s debut was that much more impressive for me.

          • bigf9779 says:

            I AGREE BRO!!!

          • banned says:

            nice to have an unbiased point of view from someone from NU, for a change. no more layas response to us! good luck to your team, sir. marami kayong tatalunin sa uaap.

          • wye says:

            heck it is good to see NU supporters finally show up here in ibp for a change…and i mean real supporters, not those that just want to cause trouble. good luck to your team!

          • bigf9779 says:

            @ banned and wye…

            thanks a lot!!! goodluck to your teams too..

            please don’t mention that “PARASITE(SK)” anymore….

  • another social climber says:

    The Finals of the Fr. Martin Cup is scheduled for March 20, 11:30 am at the Arellano Gym.

    1st Game:
    JRU 71 – Almario 13, Matute 13, Apinan 10, Lopez 10, Villarias 10, Mendoza 4, Monserat 4, Kabigting 3, Carampil 2, Dizon Jr. 2
    NU 69 – Parks 19, Khobuntin 11, Mbe 10, Villamor 9, Terso 8, Javillonar 5, Labing-isa 3, Ignacio 2, Neypes 2

    2nd Game:
    SBC 80 – A. Semerad 16, Adeogun 15, Daniel 12, J. Pascual 12, Villahermosa 8, Lim 6, Pontejos 6, Marcelo 3, Dela Rosa 2
    ADU 72 – Canada 13, Lozada 13, Camson 11, Alvarez 8, Colina 6, Nuyles 6, Manyara 5, Brondial 4, Cabrera 3, Petilos 3

    Sometimes the NCAA beat the UAAP din naman…

  • Doug says:

    So now that we are seeing our former Tigercubs superstars (who we HONESTLY hoped they stayed in the four walls of Espana), Kyle and Cedric actively playing for the Bulldogs, it seems though that their presence are hardly felt. They had less 20 minutes of action and 10pts combined so far in FilOil tourney. Di ba umupo pa sila nyan ng isang taon?

  • mjerc says:

    nakakawalang gana players ng jru this season

  • Devildog27 says:

    those who post a past game result, DON’T BOAST YOUR SCHOOL ANYMORE!! yours doesn’t belong now in this particular game!! haha., LET’S SEE WHO WILL BE THE CHAMP IF NU make against ADMU, DLSU and AdU!! :) Gud Luck Conceited Bit**..

  • wasn’t altamirano part of that UP champion team that included Paras/Magsanoc?

  • thanks PG. nice to hear fr. You again.

  • Dennis says:

    What position did Parks play? I heard he is a PG. Tangkad na pg

    • Anti-heat says:

      He was a PG but I don’t think he’ll play the position with Terso around. He’ll play the 2 or 3 position which suits him more playing in this country.

  • What Everybody Said says:

    The RLs are playing in almost every pre-season tourney there is today. :)

  • bigf9779 says:

    gumaganda na ang discussions dito…pero mukhang nagpaparamdam na naman mga katulad ni SK…tsk…tsk…tsk…kahihiyan sa mga certified na NU BREED!!!

  • Dennis says:

    Si SK sa pex naghahasik ng lagim LOL

  • MORE MORE says:

    WOW ok ito….natalo SBC sa NU….at least alam natin na may mga team na umaangat at lumalakas.

  • Red Cafe says:

    Have a blessed Holy Week everyone!

    This is the perfect season for the trolls to repent. Mag bago na kayo!!!

  • kaluluwa ni SK says:

    Hello ! hihihi huhuhu

  • kaluluwa ni SK sa internet cafe says:

    ang daming internet cafe dito sa recto-mendiola. nasa animosanbeda.tk dina ako. sundan nyo mga blog ko doon.

  • SK says:

    talunan talaga ang san beding. gusto pang humirit. sa liga ng sampalok baka mag-champeon kayo. hihihi huhuhu

  • JULIUS GIRAY says:

    good luck to NATIONAL UNIVERSITY!BULLDOGS..JUST PLAY THE GAME WITH A BIG HEART AND BE COOL ALWAYS…GOD SPEED.

  • cruz says:

    nice wun.. Ray Parks… Rookie-MVP nxt season.. tamang tama timpla nyan.. stabilizer si terso kya ma iikot nya ng tama ung bola.. ray parks is the go to guy, then mbe will control the boards.. nice wun..

    • nyaks says:

      ravena ROY
      slaughter MVP

      • nyaks says:

        malaking problema kasi na hindi kayo aabot ng playoffs

        • wye says:

          i seriously doubt NU not entering the f4 this year. great to see NU supporters here in ibp…sana dumami pa yung ganyan, hindi yung mga tulad ni sk ha.

      • mapuan15 says:

        ravena ROY-MVP nlng impossible mag MVP si slaughter mahina sa rebounds haha! last game 26 pts tas 2 rebs lng tsk

        • Why is Norman Black? says:

          one game in MVP season, Al hussaini did only 2pts.

          please check other collegiate slaughter games. you should also know that he’s already a two time visayan league mvp

  • leolite says:

    The last few seconds, during that scramble. the ball was NOT tapped out from Ola. 1 player embraced Ola and another pulled on his arm. That should have been a technical and un-sportsman foul. Look at the videos. please.

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