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Let’s put the Bantay Bata Jersey to rest

by Mike Abasolo
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That was one hell of a meeting in a function room at the Sze-chuan House at the Aloha Hotel with Sam Ekwe included. The NCAA Management committee decided to forfeit the game on July 18, 2008 with the following rule:

NCAA Rule #9 Default, Forfeiture and Fines
9.2 A team shall lose the game by FORFEITURE if and when:
9.2.1 An INELIGIBLE athlete is fielded or enters the playing court with an intent to play. He and his team shall lose the game/match BY FORFEITURE. The particular player shall be BARRED from further competition in any NCAA tournament. Moreover, the games with the team in which he played are automatically FORFEITED.

But take note, rule 9.2.1 will only apply to the July 18 game and Sam Ekwe will still be on the Red Lions bench to the Red and White banner.

When Mister Quinito Henson released his “poor taste� article, I believe he was not really aware of the facts but according to Henry Atayde, Mr. Henson will make another piece to cover the Ekwe testimony because the De La Salle community went ballistic when they read his article printed on a traditional daily.

In my previous article, I mentioned about other sports in the NCAA being smothered by numerous complaints about uniform infractions, that it was too bad it hit the most popular spectator sport in the country – Basketball, thus it becoming a big deal.

Now everybody is talking and screaming for clarity on the matter and demanded the NCAA to release the rules as public document. Don’t worry next week, the NCAA operations manual will be made available in the www.ncaa.org.ph website for download. Since we are clamoring for consistency, whether in the NCAA or the UAAP, so far, I would give the NCAA the passing mark.

The UAAP still in deaf ears on the accountability of the uniform infraction made by Ateneo during their tussle with UP. If another infraction should happen in the future in the UAAP, and some member team would file a complaint, they better make sure they know what answer to give them.

Now what about Sam Ekwe being on the interogation stand? What did he say? According to the minutes, Sam Ekwe did mention that his uniform got lost and had to bring another uniform for the game. Believe it or not, the disappearance was puzzling - he was washing his clothes, went out to dry then suddenly vanished.
He then proceeded to tell the Mancom that he doesn’t know the rules and just wants to play basketball. He further added that he did inform the coaching staff about his jersey’s abrupt flight into thin air. But is he really telling the truth? AND, are we sure that this is the first time he’d ever committed this infraction? Well, none that we know of.

NCAA Rule #6 Playing Uniform and School ID
6.1 All athletes shall wear the OFFICIAL PLAYING TEAM UNIFORM in all the games/matches of the NCAA Season.
6.Any athlete whose playing uniform does not conform to the preceding rules shall be INELIGIBLE to participate in a given game/match.

For a uniform to be declared official, the NCAA Mancom’s basis would be the jersey issued during the team’s first day of competition with school colors, sponsor logo and league logo specified under league specifications. File Photos maybe taken for cross checking and reference .

With this rule and, as usual, with all eyes on basketball, the NCAA Management Committee will create some measures to ensure that a debacle like this can be prevented. As an example, don’t be surprised when teams, before game time, will be called on center court, so that referees and game officials can run last minute checks to see if coaches and team officials would like to make any declaration with regards to whatever situation and make sure everything is in order. A commitment to create such a measure like the one which I have just mentioned was at least guaranteed to me by the NCAA Management Committee.

How about the win? Will it affect the standings? For the record, the College of St. Benilde would not want to accept this win, but since the NCAA is affiliated with FIBA, they need all results plus the details accounted for to evaluate the integrity of the league.

For now, the win by CSB or loss by San Beda in this scenario will not influence the outcome of the standings. But a CSB run in the 2nd round is also a possibility, then it becomes a factor. At least both teams are aware of their baggages come crunch time. If there is a tie, the win over the other rule will apply. If we are to key in the top four teams by far in this tournament, the CSB win will not hurt those teams currently gunning for the top four.

Now let’s put this issue to rest.

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  • U.L.O.L  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 7:54 pm

    galing mo ah

  • Jason Postulka  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:11 pm

    GO JRU! natalo beda. wahahahaha. next na ang letran..

    Letran? ewww

  • Chief Waka-waka  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:24 pm

    oo, ibaon na yan sa hukay.

  • red01  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:34 pm

    ^ lakas naman ng loob nito magsabing ewww sa letran, nanalo lang sa San Beda ang yabang na.

  • red01  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:36 pm

    Just a question, Are they consistent with this rule eversince even in the previous seasons?!? How did you give a passing mark to NCAA for this?
    Pax!

  • 17  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:37 pm

    tingnan na lang naten at the end of the season……

    Animo San Beda!!!

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Mike Abasolo,

    Just curious, Rule 9.2.1 includes the player being barred from further competition. Why was an exception made?

  • red01  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:55 pm

    LDC,
    it’s because of their rule #6 which made Sam INELIGIBLE

  • red01  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:56 pm

    ^^ oops sorry iwas thinking of something

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:00 pm

    actually there is already a precedent to game forfeiture for usiing an ineligible or barred player. many years ago, the letran squires were rampaging and going strong to the finals. i don’t exactly know whether they won or not. but snce one player was found out to have played ina paranaque commercial league, all the won games were forfeited. so wholesale forfeiture of games has a precedence.

    i hope my interpretation is erroneous as i don’t want to see ekwe barred.

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:04 pm

    @LDC, a reading of the rule shows that an exception is NOT a prerogative. its either there was a violation or none at all. unfortunately, in this instance, it was deemed a violation.

    anyway, let’s bury the issue and pray it is not resurrected.

  • asaness  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:11 pm

    @ red01

    pare talo lang tlga kau hehe peace :p

  • AKnightToRemember  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Jason Postulka:

    Haha. You are indeed one funny person! Ewwww ba ang Letran? Coming from a pathetic creature like you, walang bearing!

  • h0pe  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:23 pm

    “Jason Postulka +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 8:11 pm

    GO JRU! natalo beda. wahahahaha. next na ang letran..

    Letran? ewww”

    hahahahah! hindi bagay dude…dpat ata Letran pa ang mag-ewwww sa inu. lalo sau, kasi ang kapal tlga ng muka mo! hopia! :))

  • asaness  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:24 pm

    “kung wala kaung mgandang sasabihin,mabuti nlng kung itikom nlng ang bibig” hehe

  • h0pe  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:24 pm

    GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!

  • infamous_bedan  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Riot on the next match between CSB bedaNS

  • proud2Bbedan  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Jason Postulka = though you won the game.. it doesn’t mean you’ll be the champs.. lots of improvement to do.. remember what Letran did to JRU.. They owned JRU haha! 83-69 i think was the score.. xD

    PEace.. Go San Beda Fight!

  • Maria  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Tapos na yan.

    Go San Beda Fight.

    Class Act Atayde

  • Jason Postulka  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 11:13 pm

    mas lalong ewwww ang letran.. kadiri to death

  • archerincali818/pinggoy18  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 11:45 pm

    ..let us just pray for Mr. Barcala (correct me if im wrong)from FEU who was shot Thursday night..he is in critical condition right now..

  • archerincali818/pinggoy18  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 11:46 pm

    correction…MAc Baracael ..
    From UBELT.com
    As you may have heard in other websites and discussion boards, Mac Baracael was reportedly shot outside the FEU campus by an unidentified gunman earlier this evening

    Baracael was with two teammates Robert Kave and Ron Cabagnot when the incident happened. He is currently undergoing operation at a hospital after being rushed by an FEU ambulance.

  • jester  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 12:27 am

    crabs for sale.

  • mapuan  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 12:37 am

    may red tide mga crabs dito… ayaw… hahaha… tigilan na yan… manood na lang tau ng mga upcoming games…

  • bedan pride  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 12:57 am

    jason Postulka,

    asa ka naman sa panalo nyo against san beda.. atleast natanggalan na ng tinik san beda.. puro kasi insecure taga JRU. this is the first time you won against us.. just be happy dahil baka di mo na abutan yung next win ng JRU sa San Beda. hayyy… asa jru.. a win is a win nevertheless asa pa rin kau jru..

    pumasok muna kayo sa finals bago magtalk shi* ok?

    peace.

  • Bad Ato  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 9:57 am

    FEU UP may class di nagprotesta. Talo kung talo sa court. CSB meron pang sinasabi na ayaw daw nilang manalo dahil sa protesta, bs!. Hellooo pwede ba yun. Palibhasa mga latak ng DLSU kaya ganun mag-isip. Sama niyo na diyan si atayatayan!

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  --1
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 10:14 am

    Bad Ato,

    The SBC coaching staff deliberately fielded Ekwe with full knowledge he was wearing the wrong uniform (in fact, the coaching staff told him they would fix the “problem” when Ekwe informed them his uniform was “stolen”).

    If the SBC coaching staff was honest from the beginning there would be no need for CSB to protest. Now, who didn’t have “class?”

  • martian  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 10:15 am

    @Bad Ato

    its either your dumb or blind! read the freakin title of this article ten times over… if you still dont understand it STFU and GTFO!

    Animo Benilde!

  • Cabs1981  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 10:53 am

    ANOTHER STUPID COLUMN … IF CSB DOES WANT THE WIN AS YOU ARE TELLING US THEY SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED A REMATCH … THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO

  • 0808  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 10:58 am

    @CABS WTEVER

    YOUR CALLING MIKE STUPID? ANG GALING MO AH. LABHAN MO KASI UNIFORM NI EKWE. THATS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

  • FYI  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 11:08 am

    @Cabs1981, forfeited nga tapos magre request ng rematch? ano yun? binigyan ng chance ang san beda?
    meron pa rin naman silang chance ulit. they still have some games to play. this time, make sure naka-in uniform silang lahat.

    it was not CSB’s fault that they “won” this game. it was the SBC’s coaching staff’s fault that they fielded in ekwe with full knowledge of the violation. that shows how CORRUPT sbc officials are.

  • Dumbledore  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 11:10 am

    San Beda accepted the ManCom decision. St. Benilde’s petition was given a merit.

    This issue is over.

  • Cabs1981  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 11:10 am

    HMMMMMMMMM CGURO … ALAM NAMAN CGURO NYA KUNG ANO ANG TAMA OR MALI … IF THEY WANT TO WIN ALL THEIR GAMES IN THE BOARD ROOM THEN DO IT BAKA MAG CHAMPION PA SILA DUN … MASAYA YUN D B? (^_+)

    A REMATCH OF THE GAME SHOULD BE THE BEST OPTION NOT FORFEITURE … KASI IT WAS A CLEAR WIN NAMAN TALAGA

  • 0808  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 11:17 am

    @cabs

    pikon na pikon ka sa dalwang talo nyo ah. rest ka bro di kana nkkatulog lakas mu kasi uminum ng kape eh.

  • FYI  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 11:17 am

    hindi nga puwedeng rematch. punishment must be meted out first for the violation. a rematch is no punishment.

    a rematch is only held if there is no clear winner. in this case, san beda clearly won the game. kaya lang because of the violation, the win was taken away from sbc and awarded to csb. yun ang kaparusahan sa sbc.

  • martian  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 12:02 pm

    @Cabs1981

    you are the one who’s stupid… rules are made to be followed and not bent or broken. its clear who is at fault, SBC is and not CSB. you got that?! stop whining and let the issue die already! move on and get a freakin life!

  • Cabs1981  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 12:09 pm

    @MARTIAN

    OK! ^_+ SEE YOU IN THE 2ND ROUND …

    CONGRATZ FOR WINNING IN THE BOARD ROOM ^_+

  • Bad Ato  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 1:05 pm

    LDC,

    Eh di ang Benilde pa rin tinatanong pa ba yun. Magbasa ka nga muna ng article ni Quinito Henson para maliwanagan ka at hindi ka lang tirada ng tirada dyan. Baka naman meron pwedeng mag-reprint ng article for the benefit of LDC. Kung sabagay P20 na ang Phil. Star. Nilalayo mo na naman ang issue. Ang CSB team mismo ayaw na nga magprotest. Ang me gusto lang si Atayatayan na kunwari ayaw daw ma-award sa kanila ang win. Asus ginoo. SA bawat panalo ng CSB parang tumama na sila sa lotto. Ang Beda coaching staff at buong Bedan community tinanggap ang desisyon ng MANCOM nang mapayapa di ba class yun. Sige payag na ko CSB is always second CLASS to DLSU ok?

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  --1
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Bad Ato,

    I read that the infraction was first noticed towards the end of the 2nd half (take note: it wasn’t CSB who first noticed it). The game was over when it was verified with the acknowledgement of CSB.

    Contrast that to SBC knowing Ekwe did not have the right uniform yet they let him play. Unfortunately, their dishonesty did not pay off, thanks to the protest.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Bad Ato,

    Read the previous articles in inboundpass. Mr. Gee Abanilla, the head coach, said he became aware of the infraction in the dugout AFTER the game.

    As to Mr Henson’s allegation, since he didn’t substatiate it, it doesn’t deserve any attention.

  • martian  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 2:00 pm

    @Bad Ato

    Again you missed important parts of this article… please refer to paragraph 4 of this article, there you will see Mr. Henson will make another article that will include Sam Ekwe’s side of the story… learn to read or shut up!

    and by the way, DLSU and CSB shouldn’t be compared to each other. Lasallians, Benildeans and everyone else in the lasallian community do not care about who is better in what field or whatever when it comes to Lasallian schools. We do not compete with each other, st*pid!

    If you do not have anything sensible to say then Get the F*ck Off the site!

    Animo Benilde!

  • martian  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 2:59 pm

    people, i read from comments on another article na taga-letran yang si Cabs… joiners lang yan kasi hindi naman sya bedan or benildean e! wala ka ba magawa sa buhay mo cabs? epal ka lang pala e!

    Go do something productive with your life for a change…

  • Walmart  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 5:32 pm

    ang kakapal talaga ng apog ng mga galing sa eskwelahan na SALIMPUSA lang sa NCAA, at kung saan ang mga kursong kinukuha ay cooking, photography at hrm.lol

  • Geez  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 7:43 pm

    tapos na po e2 ok na fellow bedans we should learn na lang …

    2 lang po ang mangyayari sa team naten

    Magising at Bumalik ang dati nating laro o bumagsak lalo

    to CSB congratz

  • Mike Abasolo  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Cabs1981,

    There is no such rule - rematch. Let’s just stick to the rules and be consistent.

  • frenzy boy  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 8:06 pm

    geez,

    sumasang-ayon ako dun sa sinabi mo, dapat laging galingan ng beda.

    dapat manalo ang beda. hehehe.

    Animo san Beda.

  • sam wer  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Friday, 25 July 2008 at 10:32 pm

    No big deal ang forfeit kasi championship ang hinihintay ko.

  • Bad Ato  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 8:22 am

    Kahit na ano pa ang sabihin ninyo, Benilde ay second class talaga sa La Salle forever and ever. Magpakatotoo at aminin ninyo na hindi kayo makapasa sa entrance ng La Salle o kaya naman malapit na makick-out sa La Salle kaya Benilde ang sasalo sa inyo. Sa isip ng mga Brothers, uy, sayang din ang pera ng mga bobo! Sa Baste lang nagpapatambak kayo bwahahaha!!!

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:17 pm

    @CABS1981:

    In fairness to Mike Abasolo, Mr. CABS1981, let me just put into record that he is a red-blooded Bedan. It might be difficult to be not biased in this issue, but being a journalist, I admire his professionalism.

    So be careful with your words.

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I mean “professinalism”. sorry for the “typo”

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:25 pm

    @LDC:

    You are still at it, man. Give it a break. CSB won and SBC lost. What do you want more? The championship? Or maybe you are going ballistic because that part of the rule where Ekwe should not be allowed to play anymore is not enforced?

    The reason it wasn’t is because of the flaw of the rule. They should not generalized the word INELIGIBLE for players who made an infraction such as the one Ekwe made. They should at least specify things more.

    It’s flawed.

  • ???  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:34 pm

    To Mr Mike,

    Bakit po ganun?
    Bakit hindi sinunod yung rules?
    Kung nakalagay sa rule 9.2.1 e dpat maban un ineligible player sa ibang games, bakit makakapaglaro pa rin po si ekwe?
    Diba dapat iimplement ang rules, kaya nga ginawa ang rules e, tapos hindi susundin. Parang mali po diba?

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:37 pm

    @BIG RED1, i agree tapos na ito! no sense in beating a dead horse, hindi na yun tatakbo.

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:39 pm

    the one game forfeiture is enough. there’s no need to barr ekewe from playing further … fair yung decision… tapos. let’s all zip it…

  • ???  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Pero sabihin man nating masyadong harsh ang parusa. Still rules should be implemented! Don’t get me wrong. Ang ibig ko lang sabihin kung yun ang nakalagay sa rules, bakit ndi sundin? Hindi naman yata fair yun. Para tuloy medyo bias un para sa beda. Isa pa, in the 1st place ndi dapat pinayagan ng coaching staff ng beda na maglaro c sam in a wrong uniform.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:52 pm

    DBIGRED1,

    “You are still at it, man. Give it a break. CSB won and SBC lost…�

    My point to Bad Ato is not about who won or who lost. It’s about getting his facts right so I had to correct him. In fact, all my posts re the Ekwe uniform issue were to make clarifications based on the facts. You’re right, the issue is over, and I totally agree with you. But as long as there are inaccurate posts I won’t hesitate to correct them.

    “…that part of the rule where Ekwe should not be allowed to play anymore is not enforced?
    The reason it wasn’t is because of the flaw of the rule. They should not generalized the word INELIGIBLE for players who made an infraction such as the one Ekwe made. They should at least specify things more.�

    Uhm, I have not idea what you’re trying to say here.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Slight correction. My last sentence should read:

    Uhm, I have NO idea what you’re trying to say here.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Grrr!,

    I’m still confused. Rule 9.2.1 also states that a player shall “ be BARRED from further competition in any NCAA tournamentâ€? for the infraction. Yet, Ekwe wasn’t. Was there an exception to the rule? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want him barred. I just want to make sense of it.

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:22 pm

    This “INELIGBLE” word or clause was made part of the rule mostly to penalize teams who were found during the course of the tournament to be having faked documents of their players i.e. false school documents, fake birth certificates etc.

    But the problem was they used this word in the part of ruling: “6.2 Any athlete whose playing uniform does not conform to the preceding rules shall be INELIGIBLE to participate in a given game/match.”

    If you apply strictly this ruling Ekwe should be penalized with: “9.2.1 An INELIGIBLE athlete is fielded or enters the playing court with an intent to play. He and his team shall lose the game/match BY FORFEITURE. The particular player shall be BARRED from further competition in any NCAA tournament. Moreover, the games with the team in which he played are automatically FORFEITED.”

    See where the absurdity of this rule comes in. Who in his right mind would apply 9.2.1 for a mere uniform infraction! That is why Mancom didn’t apply it because this penalty is grossly not in proportion and completely unfair with the infraction made.

    Therefore, it is only but logical to try at least to reword or rephrase the 6.2 rule. If not, MANCOM would always sound stupid when they don’t completely apply their own rules.

    Like right now, since they decided for applying the rule on SBC, they should apply everything at them i.e. the 9.2.1 rule. Otherwise, they should be man enough to say that the rule is flawed that is why they are not applying it.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:33 pm

    DBIGRED1,

    Strictly speaking, ineligible means “not eligible… not qualified… not permittedâ€? (I checked my dictionary). I think, therefore, ineligible is the appropriate word to use in Rules 6.2 and 9.2.1.

    It is obvious that Mancom did not apply the “barring� penalty but it’s strange that they kept quiet about it. I believe that if they had made an exception to the rule the fans deserve an explanation.

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Or mayber MANCOM thinks us fans are that stupid na baka di natin mapansin?…

    Just thinking out loud, mga bros.

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:37 pm

    @LDC:

    That’s exactly what I was wondering. If they applied the rule, they should apply it to the hilt!

    Otherwise, napapatunayan tuloy na may kulang.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:41 pm

    DBIGRED1,

    Keep in mind that SBC is a member of the Mancom. Perhaps he/she can shed light on this.

  • Walmart  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:47 pm

    andami pa satsat ng mga eskwelahan ng mga SALIMPUSA ….. palibhasa nahihirapan umintindi, dahil photography lang ang kinuhang kurso.lol

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:47 pm

    @LDC:

    The point kasi they used the word INELIGIBLE all throughout. Inapply nila sa lahat.

    A reworded rule for 6.2 might go like this: “Any athlete whose playing uniform does not conform to the preceding rules shall be penalize and thrown out in the given game/match, and the game be subsequently forfeited against the infracting team.”

    Pag hinde napansin sa laro yong player uniform, the second part of the rule “and the game be subsequently forfeited against the infracting team.” would still be applicable.

    With my reworded version of the rule, nobody would be complaining right now, don’t you think?

  • Walmart  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:48 pm

    maghanap na lang kayo ng kasal na iko kober ninyo sa photography.lol

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 1:48 pm

    @LDC:

    I bet it was not unanimous.

  • =0=0=0=0=  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 5:26 pm

    ABS_CBN NEWs 7-26-2008

    San Beda rector speaks on team’s loss to Benilde

    San Beda Rector Fr. Mat de Jesus, OSB, has released a statement regarding his silence on the issue concerning the forfeiture of their 74-51 rout of St. Benilde last week on the grounds that Nigerian Sam Ekwe wore a wrong uniform.

    “The reason why I’m not making an appeal is I don’t want school heads to spend time on logos on a uniform,” de Jesus said. “There are some more serious problems facing us.

    “In our hearts, we know we won the game convincingly,” he added.

    De Jesus, meanwhile, praised the UAAP’s Far Eastern U and University of the Philippines for their forthrightness in deciding to let the games be decided on the court and not outside it.

    FEU was on the receiving end of several bad calls and a non-call by a UAAP referee that led to a close loss to La Salle. The referee, who admitted his mistakes, was banished from the league outright.

    UP, for its part, opted to just let go even if Ateneo’s Americans Kirk Long and Vince Burke wore a different uniform from the rest of their teammates in the Eagles’ rout of the Maroons.

    “Hats off to UP and FEU. The rules were interpreted differently by Mancom and us, so let’s move on,” said de Jesus.

  • ???  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 5:43 pm

    to DBIGRED1,

    Still rules are rules! Kung yun ang sinasabi sa rules, yun ang dapat sundin. What are rules for kung hindi rin naman pala to susundin?

    LDC,

    We share the same opinion. Kung yun ang nakasaad sa rules, dapat yun ang sundin. Kasi para sakin parang unfair yun sa ibang teams ng NCAA. Syempre hindi mo maiiwasang magtanong, “pano kaya kung sa ibang teams nangyari yun?” Ganun din kaya gagawin ng mancom? Para sa kin unfair talaga to. NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW! Maraming lawyers sa Beda dapat alam nila yun.

    I think mancom should rethink the punishment they gave to SBC. Hindi nila sinusunod ang rules. That’s unfair.

  • DBIGRED1  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 8:22 pm

    @???:

    Sinunod na nga eh. Pero di sinunod lahat. That’s my point. Either they follow it to the book or not. Nothing in the middle. Which is what happened now. They followed 6.2 but not 9.1.2. Pinatupad na rin lang nila, half-hearted pa. Which for me, is rather stupid. Mancom was in a dilemma because of their lack of perpective when they wrote this rule.

    I suggested an alternative in my previous post by rewording the rule. Pero hinde ako agree na machange ang rule while in mid-season. Siguro next season na.

    You think with your clamor na unfair, they will now change again there ruling. Di double stupidity na yon. Give it a break, ???, the issue is settled. Pero sabagay kaya siguro puro ka question mark. Puro ka lang tanong. Sana ganun, sana ganyan.

    Tapos na ito, wala na tayo magagawa kahit magngangawa pa tayo dito upto judgement day.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 8:31 pm

    DBIGRED1, ???:

    The CSB protest gave the opportunity for all member schools to discuss the rule. If there is to be any change I’m sure they have noted it for review.

  • Walmart  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 9:31 pm

    kaya di nag protesta ang up, dahil me utak mga tao dun. sa up kasi, hindi hrm ang pinakamahirap na kurso. di tulad ng ibang salimpusang eskwelahan dyan, na nag aambisyong lasalista rin daw sila, kahit di makapasa ng dlsucet.lol

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Saturday, 26 July 2008 at 9:39 pm

    up probably did not protest cause the win will not affect the standings, cause therafter, they won’t win any games anymore. yan ang may utak…alam nila kung wala talagang ibubuga, why complain?

  • redone  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Sunday, 27 July 2008 at 9:37 pm

    just a thought…… papano kung natalo ang beda vs benilde that game… ano ang magiging penalty for sanbeda for ekwe wearing wrong jersey????

  • purokayosatsat  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 10:43 am

    To those of you that are yakking about the non-enforcement of rule 9.2.1, why don’t you petition your mancom representatives to protest the ruling? Send, e-mails, letters to sports editors, whatever to get your message across.

    Cheaters ba ang San Beda? Eh di simulan nyo ang movement na mapatalsik sila sa NCAA. Otherwise, puro kayo satsat.

  • marc  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Rules are supposed to uphold principles, and the mere infraction of a small logo’s not being in the uniform is not and won’t be part of the competition. Cheating, by means of missing a teeny-tiny logo? I assume that the weight it bears is quite negligible or perhaps that logo has high-tech sensors and anti-gravity?

    Good thing UP isn’t that shallow to give up principles just to win games. No wonder that birds of the same green color flock together. Anything to win, nga naman.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 1:08 pm

    marc,

    “…Cheating, by means of missing a teeny-tiny logo?…â€?
    Cheating, no matter how small, CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED. If you think it can then you’re better off joining the SBC coaching staff. “Anything to win, nga naman.�

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 1:30 pm

    @LDC, can you swear on the bible that you have NEVER ever cheated in your entire life?

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Grrr!,

    Yes, I have cheated once in elementary. But when I realized my mistake I stood up, admitted my mistake, then faced the consequences.

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 1:49 pm

    @LDC, noted. Then your campaign is borne out of natural and christian morality not self rightousness. Good luck to your crusade against CHEATERS.

  • attacK  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Monday, 28 July 2008 at 4:16 pm

    “Mr. Henson will make another piece to cover the Ekwe testimony because the De La Salle community went ballistic when they read his article printed on a traditional daily.”

    –>> takot lang nya! the ‘poor taste’ article IS POOR ITSELF. LAME! I used to think he’s smart, but proved otherwise in this article he released. I feel so sorry for the poor chap.

    RULES ARE RULES. need i say more?

  • Sam  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 9:51 am

    Nicolai Machiavelli. I hope I spelled his name right.

    For his principles are widely criticized to the point of admonishiment. But believe it or not as my professor would put it, A lot of his principles are still being followed and revered silently.

    Let’s take the case of this uniform issue.

    Wearing another uniform in a game warrants a penalty. Game Competition however is decided on the court or at least it should be.

    If forefeiture is the penalty, then the rule is very inconsistent in the spirit of the sport.

    As previously reported, Ekwe’s claim is that his uniform was stolen! Probably stolen as a novelty item. Assuming that’s true, We now have a case where the victim of a theft, is also a recipient of a penalty, and the blame of the loss, perhaps the goat of the team.

    See how brutal this incosistency can be? Blame the policy? I say blame the procedure as well.

    Logic. Not Politics, will solve disputes.

    San Beda should have been given a stiff penalty with a warning, a fine or even a suspension of this player, but not the forfeiture of a game whose sacrifices of not just the person who erred but at least 14 other players, is reflected.

    I mean consider this, as a replacement of his lost uniform, Ekwe a foreign student, wore another Bedan jersey, identical and so forth but without a freaking patch!

    Can we not consider this however, as an act of good faith on the part of Ekwe? It’s not as if Ekwe wore his PBL Jersey here, or a Jersey of another institution or a shirt that says “Bad to the Bone!”

    That would been intentional and in bad taste!

    Yes Rules are there. But without compassion over good faith, things will result to be illogical, such as this “big deal.”

    That’s the point Nicolai Machiavelli missed.

    With this result however,San Beda will surely learn from this mistake. The politics in the NCAA can be very Maciavellian.

    Summing up the arguement; Because of Freaking Patch, San Beda lost the game and because of the same contoversial patch, The Blazers blazed their way through victory but not in the court, but through its mouthing.

    Or,

    The College of Saint Benilde won that game because one of San Beda’s players wore the wrong uniform. San Beda won the score but outcome was delivered to Benilde for the victory.

    How does that sound? Silly and plain lame. Stupid for the lack of a better word.

    Bad Taste. I definitely agree with Quinito Henson.

    A complaint is different from a protest. Benilde protested instead of filing a complaint, and therefore they knew the consequences of what they were doing. They fished for something and they got a big one.

    Whoa I heard something, “No thanks we don’t want the win!” Give me a break! Why did you protested instead of complain?

    But this is a kind of win Benilde deserve. They obviously worked for it. I say let them have it. Keep and Cherish a “twisted” win. How will they savor it? I have no clue in the World. Benilde can probably show how. That’s first. Congratulations.

    But this win reflects a win in the official tally but not in the eyes of the public and most of all the spirit of the sport. Sounds like Dead men can vote.

    Let’s put this issue into rest? What else is there to do? Protest a Protest?

    Hmmm… I think its about time San Beda joins the UAAP. There are countless reasons why.

    Sam
    San Diego Ca.

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:14 am

    Join the UAAP and the cotery of cheaters? Do birds of the same father flock together?

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  --1
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:23 am

    Sam,

    Funny that you mentioned good faith. Listen to what Ekwe admitted in the Mancom hearing:

    On the morning of the game, he (Ekwe) discovered his jersey “stolen.” He immediately reported this to the coaching staff who instructed him to wear his old jersey while they fix the “problem.”

    As is evident, Ekwe acted in good faith by telling the coaching staff. But that cannot be said of the coaching staff. In fact, the deliberate and dishonest act of the coaching staff carried a lot of weight in the Mancom imposing the forfeiture on SBC.

    You also mentioned “compassion.” Again, it’s funny you should mention that because had it been an honest mistake on the part of the SBC coaching staff I’m sure the Mancom would have reconsidered the forefeiture penaly.

    As you can see, clearly the SBC coaching staff’s action was, borrowing your own words, “intentional and in bad taste!” Thanks.

  • Marc  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Jeez, a lot of persons seemed stupid enough to have misread my post. What I mean is that, how can you cheat with or without the Bantay Bata Logo? Does that make any difference at all? Per-lease!

    Anything to win? What? To remove a logo from to decrease 0.00001% weight from the jersey and help Ekwe jump all the way to the net? Is this cheating at all?

    Everyone knows who won. It’s San Beda. Logo makes no difference, well except for green-stupid-blabber mouths out there. Yes they are a.k.a Benildeans. Nuff said.

    I’m not from SBC btw. I’m from Loyola.

  • LDC  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Why are there idiots that can’t understand that the logo is NOT THE ISSUE but wearing the wrong uniform IS?

  • Chief Waka-waka  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 8:35 pm

    tang-ina, tapos na ang issue, manahimik na kayong lahat.

  • Marc  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:07 pm

    it makes no difference that the logo or the uniform is at lost. Let’s take it from what you said, wrong uniform: did that in anyway alter the game?

    Did CSB mistakenly pass the ball to SBC because they thought Ekwe was not officially in the game because of the wrong uniform, which is apparently the same notwithstanding the logo? If that’s cheating, then I’d stay Ateneo jersey’s with extra white smudge and call them cheaters for not wearing the exact uniform they have had. “Hey your uniform doesn’t have any stain on it during the first day of competition, you’re cheating man.”

    You’ll contest then that the logo is different than the stain. Really, how so?

  • Marc  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:15 pm

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    LDC Add karma Subtract karma –1
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:23 am

    Sam,

    Funny that you mentioned good faith. Listen to what Ekwe admitted in the Mancom hearing:

    On the morning of the game, he (Ekwe) discovered his jersey “stolen.� He immediately reported this to the coaching staff who instructed him to wear his old jersey while they fix the “problem.�

    As is evident, Ekwe acted in good faith by telling the coaching staff. But that cannot be said of the coaching staff. In fact, the deliberate and dishonest act of the coaching staff carried a lot of weight in the Mancom imposing the forfeiture on SBC.
    [quote]
    You also mentioned “compassion.� Again, it’s funny you should mention that because had it been an honest mistake on the part of the SBC coaching staff I’m sure the Mancom would have reconsidered the forefeiture penaly.

    As you can see, clearly the SBC coaching staff’s action was, borrowing your own words, “intentional and in bad taste!� Thanks.
    [/quote]

    In other words I’ll steal all the La Salle jerseys and what then will they do? Who is at fault then? Does the coaching staff have any choice? Intentional,yes; to cheat? No. Very unlike Mr. Greenie Mindy’s team.

  • Grrr!  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 10:39 pm

    TAPOS NA ITO! THE TEAM WHO MADE A MISTAKE WAS PENALIZED. PWEDE BA, TIGILAN NA ITO. GASGAS NA ANG ISSUE NA ITO.

  • Chief Waka-waka  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Tuesday, 29 July 2008 at 11:44 pm

    ilibing na sa hukay, sunugin na at ikalat ang abo para makalimutan ang isyung ito.

  • Sam from San Diego Ca  Add karma Subtract karma  +0
    Wednesday, 30 July 2008 at 6:03 am

    Sam,

    Funny that you mentioned good faith. Listen to what Ekwe admitted in the Mancom hearing:

    On the morning of the game, he (Ekwe) discovered his jersey “stolen.� He immediately reported this to the coaching staff who instructed him to wear his old jersey while they fix the “problem.�

    As is evident, Ekwe acted in good faith by telling the coaching staff. But that cannot be said of the coaching staff. In fact, the deliberate and dishonest act of the coaching staff carried a lot of weight in the Mancom imposing the forfeiture on SBC.

    You also mentioned “compassion.� Again, it’s funny you should mention that because had it been an honest mistake on the part of the SBC coaching staff I’m sure the Mancom would have reconsidered the forefeiture penaly.

    As you can see, clearly the SBC coaching staff’s action was, borrowing your own words, “intentional and in bad taste!� Thanks.

    LDC or Whatever your name is,

    First of all, I am not offering an excuse and if you are from St. Benilde, Congratulations on your victory that spawned from the mouthing and whining of your group. Celebrate your “twisted” victory.

    JRC just beat us the other day and they beat us fair and square. They outsmarted us. Congratulations to them on a victory well done. They surely decided that game with their guts, cunning, and heart. Now, that’s what I call a genuine win and you cannot twist that.

    Now, “What if” San Beda protested against JRC over the same issues St Benilde used against them? Should the Mancom reverse JRC’s victory? See how ridiculous that can be?

    Well that’s still a win in the bag. Courtesy of the Benilde example. So Grab it!

    Truth of the matter is, St. Benilde did not complain, but protested.

    Had they had complained, they would have corrected the problem and disciplined the deserving. But they protested, so they were cleary fishing for something, and they got a big one.

    So What Alma Mater is acting on Bad faith?

    It’s true the Coaching Staff of San Beda should have been aware. No question. But that’s not to say they probably were not aware of it either… and in this granting if they were really aware, Should they have been penalized by a reversal of a win to a loss over a freaking 50 cent patch? My goodness. What logic.

    And Why Protest at the end of the game, Why not at the start? Speaking of Malice.

    I mean to think, do you ever read the rules and regulations of the NCAA like a prayer book? Do you ever keep this manual on your bedside and sleep well and tight with it? Do you ever use it for your thesis, Is that what normal people do? Hmmm… I doubt it but maybe we all should read it religously.

    Is this NCAA rules and regulations manual thing a four year “BS” course in St. Benilde? Not so in San Beda.

    Would a suspension and warning not suffice and justify the end to this?

    No. St Benilde has to get the win and that’