St. Benilde, San Beda await decision on game protest
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 1,383 Views / 74 Comments
BOTH the College of Saint Benilde and San Beda College are now awaiting the decision regarding the former’s protest over a different jersey donned by Red Lions big man Sam Ekwe in their July 18, 2008 contest in the 84th NCAA seniors basketball tournament.
Blazers head coach Gee Abanilla, in a conversation with inboundpass.com, said that he, along with assistant coaches Mon Jose and Richard del Rosario, met with school officials, including CSB NCAA Management Committee representative Henry Atayde, to finalize their game protest against San Beda College last Monday, July 20.
When asked about his knowledge of the protest lodged against San Beda right after the game, Abanilla said, “I honestly did not notice San Ekwe’s jersey, and was only told that the game would be put under protest after reprimanding my players in the locker room for allowing San Beda to beat them that way.�
Abanilla recounts that he was not aware of the protest until his captain, Jacob Manlapaz, signed the official box score after the game. The CSB head tactician noted that the protest had already been inserted into the box score without his, or Manlapaz’s knowledge. “Apparently, someone asked Jacob to sign the box score with the protest on the game sheet.�
That same day, Abanilla said that an infraction report on Ekwe’s jersey had already been submitted by the NCAA.
According to him, a three-step process is exercised in order to lodge a formal game protest. The first is the formulation of the protest, which was undertaken the moment his team captain signed the game’s box score. The next step is the filing of an infraction report, while the third is the finalization of the game protest to be headed by school officials.
In the meeting in the CSB campus, Abanilla said that all he did was air his sentiments on the matter. “I think my opinion on whether or not to lodge the protest was moot and academic. The decision had already been undertaken last Friday after the game.�
“All I said was, I follow the rules, I don’t make them. The school decided to finalize the protest and all I did was support the school,� he reiterated.
Also, the ex-De La Salle University point guard explained that the NCAA has been very strict with implementing rules on jerseys. In the Blazers’ opening game of the season against Philippine Christian University, both he and Dolphins mentor Joel Dualan were warned by league commissioner Joe Lipa about fielding in players wearing wrong uniforms.
“One of my players, Dustin Posadas, wore a wrong jersey. His jersey number did not match the one listed in the official lineups. Coach Joe told me that if I fielded him, I would run the risk of facing a protest, so I decided not to play Dustin. Coach Joel [Dualan] also had the same problem with one of his players.�
Abanilla explained that even in other sports, the league has already launched a crackdown on wrong uniforms. “Jose Rizal University filed a protest against CSB’s volleyball team because one of our players wore a jersey with her name at the back misspelled. This is clearly a violation.�
NCAA officials said they will discuss the game protest sometime this week. At the earliest, a decision could be arrived at on Wednesday, July 23, or 48 hours after the official and final protest was filed.
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Rules are rules…
lets just face the consequence like a true BEDAN will do…
Yes, rules are rules. What’s bothering me really is that the NCAA Mancom is the one who initiated it, aren’t they the ones who are going to decide on it too? Maybe I’m too tough on them but it’s just because of the history between NCAA Mancom vs. San Beda in the past two years… :-) Actually, this is a rivalry in the making! LOL.
Yes, rules are rules. I love following the rules and just so the rules can be implemented, I would take that forfeiture punishment with no problem at all and I hope we serve as an example for those who violate the laws no matter how big or as small as this one. But what’s bothering me really is that the NCAA Mancom is the one who initiated it, aren’t they the ones who are going to decide on it too? Maybe I’m too tough on them but it’s just because of the history between NCAA Mancom vs. San Beda in the past two years… :-) Actually, this is a rivalry in the making! LOL.
Protest in poor taste
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 Philstar
Good insight coming from a La Salle alumus.
For the record, the rule is VAGUE, and the infraction does not merit such a heavy sanction.
Di bale, sige, kung ganun gusto nila, fine. Malay mo, makaganti kami. If I were Benilde, I would be very careful in terms of following the rules from hereon. I hope na walang butas na makikita later.
rules are very clear regarding uniforms in both the uaap and ncaa.
all players must be in uniform if fielded in. the rules don’t have to mention players should be in “same or similar” uniforms or should have the same logos, patches, etc. because that would already be redundant. the word “uniform” is enough to indicate UNIFORMITY!
and the penalties are clear about violating this rule which is forfeiture of the game. you don’t need an interpretation anymore on these than the guy next to you.
i remember when i was still in high school and i was wearing a shirt having the old patch of our school. it was still the same design except the color of the thread used then was of a different shade. i was reprimanded by our prefect for that and was warned about it and was told to replace it. back then, our schools still instill the correct values to its students.
nowadays, people from all walks of life, in government, school, in entertainment, etc. always come up with an excuse if accused of something. and the accuser tends to drop the accusation if the price is right.
this simple thing about the uniform violation by san beda and ateneo should not be discussed anymore because it should already have been dealt with by the proper authorities. but until now, the respective boards don’t seem to care.
you don’t need a genius or someone with solomonic-qualities to decide on this issue.
i don’t think the protest is in poor taste. if you see a wrong thing done, the most noble thing to do is to not let it go and have it corrected. csb protested just to make sure the issue will be dealt with.
baka mamaya sabihin pa ng mancomm wala naman nag protest. in fact kahit hindi nag protest ang csb, mancomm should penalize sbc. kaya lang, mukhang dito na patungo kaya nag protest ang csb.
The protest was in poor taste. How could anybody take a win in the boardroom, when in fact they got blown out of the court by 23 points?
There is such a thing as “konsensiya” and “delicadeza”, and UP realizes that. They could not take their conscience telling them they lost, even if they won with such an inconsequential infraction.
Its not like there was a fight out there or something. Its not even the uniform. Its just the damn patches, and for that you forfeit a game? (Shakes head)
Let me quote this post from “trencher_k” from the gameface.ph forums:
“Sir Joe, according to Tony Atayde’s column in inboundpass, this was the Rule alluded to:
Rule #6
Playing Uniform and School ID
6.1 All athletes shall wear the OFFICIAL PLAYING TEAM UNIFORM in all the games/matches of the current NCAA Season.
6.5 Any athlete whose playing uniform does not conform to the
preceding rules shall be INELIGIBLE to participate in a given game/match.
9.2 A team shall lose the game by FORFEITURE if and when:
9.2.1 An INELIGIBLE athlete is fielded or enters the playing court with an intent to play. He and his team shall lose the game/match BY FORFEITURE.
I guess the controversy stems from the definition of the OFFICIAL PLAYING TEAM UNIFORM which the Rule, as cited, did not define explicitly. Sam was wearing his Bantay-Bata uniform which was basically the exact same uniform except for the placement of the sponsorship logos. I think the same issue was also brought up in the recent UP-Ateneo game where Kirk Long and Vince Burke were also spotted wearing jerseys with logos different from those used by the other ADMU players. UP, however, took the higher ground when it chose not to file the protest.”
HINDI NIYO BA NAIINTINDIHAN…MALAKAS ANG SAN BEDA RED LIONS NGAYON…so gagawa ng paraan ang lahat para bumagsak ang SAN BEDA…kahit ano pupuniin nila para lang matalo sila….mga walang kwenta!!! Rules are rules…bigay na namin ang win namin…pero sa amin panalo kami…nakakahiya kayo! Panalo sa board room…YUCK!
KAHIT ANONG SABIHIN NIYO…SAN BEDA RED LIONS PARIN ANG MAGCHACHAMPION…
another delusion…
“Abanilla recounts that he was not aware of the protest until his captain, Jacob Manlapaz, signed the official box score after the game. The CSB head tactician noted that the protest had already been inserted into the box score without his, or Manlapaz’s knowledge. “Apparently, someone asked Jacob to sign the box score with the protest on the game sheet.â€?
UNETHICAL ang ginawa ng taong ito. Without Abanilla’s knowledge.
Ganito ba sa NCAA, UNETHICAL?
If you ask me, the protest was in poor taste. Whatever happened to the spirit of competition? Is St. Benilde so desperate for a win over San Beda that it will resort to extraneous measures beyond the playing court? How meritorious is a win proclaimed in the boardroom when on the floor, it was obvious St. Benilde couldn’t hold a candle to San Beda?
-Protest in poor taste
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080722188
sa langit kaya, nag-aaway sina St. Benilde at San Beda?
Rules are rules but CSB could have opted to seize the opportunity by being good Christians and accept defeat with pride. This act would have earned them adulation and praise not only in the sport and academic community but from the whole Philippines as well. Right now their fellow alumnus and popular sportwriter Quinito Henson has criticized their protest as done in bad taste.
Mahilig siguro kumain ng CRAB ang mga taga-CSB.
“The protest was done in poor taste”.
@justice
RULES ARE RULES hindi kba nakakaintindi? at ska kasalanan din naman ni ekwe yan eh
hindi ako kampi sa csb hindi din ako kampi sa beda
porket ba sunod sunod ang champion nyo feeling nyo kayo na palagi ang champion?
panapanahon lang yan may susunod din na season ng ncaa iba naman ang mag cha-champion hindi lang kayo.
@Bad Ato:
I totally agree! It boils down to values and whatever upbringing people had. I hope CSB reads your comment para naman something good could come out of this.
I will repeat my post:
Mr. Henson is barking up the wrong tree.
CSB’s duty is to file a protest for an infraction they feel was unfairly committed against them – nothing more.
It is not CSB’s duty to decide if it was Ekwe’s fault or if it affected the outcome of the game, or any of the other points he raised in his article. That is the responsibility of the committee deciding the protest.
Mamang Kalbo,
There is nothing unethical about what Manlapaz did. Yes, he should have informed the head coach about it but that hardly qualifies as being unenthical.
My comments re Quinito Henson’s article:
1. “If you’re not a stickler for details, you wouldn’t think Ekwe wore a uniform different from his teammatesâ€? and “the “wrong” uniform was nearly identical to the stolen jerseyâ€?
Ah, the “there are minor differences so what’s wrong with it?� excuse!
The issue is not about whether the differences are noticeable or not, it’s about wearing the official uniform (refer to the NCAA rulebook).
2. “Surely, using the wrong uniform was not a deliberate act on Ekwe’s part.â€?
This is the “he wasn’t aware of the rules so he shouldn’t be penalized� excuse.
Not a deliberate act means not being aware of the consequences of the act (I looked it up). Ok, I forgive him for that. But someone should tell thim that “ignorance of the law excuses no one.�
3. “Whatever happened to the spirit of competition?�
As far as I know the predominant spirit of competition is to respect and abide by all the rules (see any athlete’s oath).
Clearly, it was SBC that committed the infraction so I think your question is better referred to them.
4. “And it certainly didn’t make him more formidable as a player. In other words, it had nothing to do with deciding the outcomeâ€? and “wearing it did not cause an advantage or disadvantage to either teamâ€?
This is the “he wasn’t wearing Superman’s costume so he couldn’t have affected the outcome of the game� excuse.
Obviously wearing the wrong uniform doesn’t make anyone play better (*duh*) but that is not the point here.
Ekwe wore the wrong uniform and was, therefore, ineligible to play. Since he was a major contributor to his team, his playing gave an unfair advantage to SBC and affected the outcome of the game.
5. “and it shouldn’t be used as an excuse for forfeiture because that’s not what basketball’s about.â€?
First and foremost, basketball (like all sports) is about following rules. The rule is: a player not wearing the official uniform is ineligible to play and the penalty is forfeiture.
6. “Manlapaz signed the protest sheet with the intention of snatching the victory from San Beda by forfeit. He certainly didn’t sign the sheet for posterity.â€?
Fact: SBC committed an infraction and it was well within Manlapaz’ right to protest it.
Whether there was malice or not is irrelevant.
Frankly, I don’t see why he had malign somebody and yet not show anything to prove it. This, to me, is downright irresponsible.
7. “Each team in the NCAA has its sights set on bringing San Beda down. If the teams can’t do it on the court, they’ll find some other way.â€?
Can anyone tell me the relevance of this statement to the issue? Nope, neither can I.
Aside from it not being relevant, it is a cheap shot at the rest of the NCAA-participating schools. Shame on him!
Most of his arguments are badly flawed because he did not address the issue directly (some sounded more like angry appeals than logical arguments to me) and two had absolutely no relevance and were cheap shots disguised as arguments.
If there was anything done in poor taste it was his article.
@LDC:
Can’t you see through what Abanilla was saying or implying?
The guy is saying that the protest was not his choice but of his school. They didn’t feel any unfairness at all, my friend. They didn’t even notice the infraction until somebody pointed out for them. And I bet, this guy is not even from CSB!
CSB, from the onset, never saw anything unfair committed against them. Only after somebody pointed it out for them.
sumbong nyo na lang kasi sa akin yan, diretso pa ang aksyon dito lamang sa sumbong sumbong kay bingang bongang bong bong… dahil hangang may mga ingitero, hanga’t may mga abusado, hanga’t may mga manloloko at hangang may nagsusumbong nandito lamang ako “isumbong mo kay bonngang bongang bongbong”
ibigay na lang natin yan sa CSB, para lang yan yung dati laban ng SBC vs PCU ng sinapak ni Morelos yun isa player ng PCU, thrown out karamihan ng PCU ang beda may 5 players pa, kasi yung Very Dominating Center ng SBC na si Yousif ndi umalis ng bench hehehe panalo beda on that game, hirap pa manalo ang SBC during that season I think 2002 season yun…
Animo San Beda!!!
Ang babaw mo talaga LDC.
I bet you are are a die-hard basketball fan but a very frustrated basketball player. Di mo alam ang spirit that these players feel inside the court. That is the reason why you can’t see what Quinito Henson can see.
You are blind. You might have the mind, but you don’t have the heart (feel). And basketball, my friend, is more of the heart.
But, cheer up, at least you’re not brain dead.
@LDC,
I think Your a Very Very VERY intelligent guy,
to the point you are better than Sir Quinito Henson
“there was anything done in poor taste it was his article.”-LDC
well this is an editorial opinion, Duhh, An opinion by a respected columnist.
peace.
DBIGRED1,
“The guy is saying that the protest was not his choice but of his school…”
Yes, that is correct and what he said is within the established procedures. The final step in the protest process is the finalization by a school official (see par. 6 of the article). So technically, it really isn’t his choice (his opinion on the matter was considered by the school, though).
“..They didn’t feel any unfairness at all, my friend. They didn’t even notice the infraction until somebody pointed out for them…”
Of course, while the game was ongoing, they didn’t know what was supposed to be “fair,” did they? Ergo, they didn’t know what what was supposed to be “unfair.”
“…And I bet, this guy is not even from CSB…”
You bet right, I read that he is from Mapua.
nicksy,
Thanks, but it is not my intention to be “better” than Quinito Henson.
I just wanted to point out the flaws in his article, especially his irresponsible statements about Manzano and the rest of the NCAA schools bringing San Beda “down” “some other way.”
“If you ask me, the protest was in poor taste.”
-Quinito Henson
(a statement from the starting paragraph after the facts)
it is not a flaw nor irresponsible statement , it is an Opinion.
peace.
DBIGRED1,
“…Di mo alam ang spirit that these players feel inside the court…”
Lemme guess, when you say “players” you are referring to the SBC players, aren’t you?
Well, sit down, close your eyes, take a deep breath and think about the CSB players for a while: they played against SBC and lost. Then they find out Ekwe was ineligible to play and was a big factor in the game. How would you feel? It would suck big time!
You are correct. His qualifier “If you ask me” shows that he is stating an opinion (you are wrong, however, as I did not say that was one of flaws or irresponsible statement).
Hey, it’s my turn to ask: Is the following an opinion? If not, what is it? (ala Geometry: please provide your proof)
“Manlapaz signed the protest sheet with the intention of snatching the victory from San Beda by forfeit. He certainly didn’t sign the sheet for posterity.”
SINO BA NAMAN KASI NAGNAKAW NG JERSEY NI SAM?!
UMAMIN NA KAYO.
I’LL HUNT YOU DOWN.
@LDC
i know that you would brought that statement as an argument, actually if you would see the structure of his article, that statement was in solo paragraph, and as you notice, the signing of Manlapaz was previously mentioned as a fact, and that solo little paragraph was a preparation to his opinion, observed the structure of the article before you comment.
the problem is that your very Myopic to the issue and disregarding other other subliminal facts and intangibles, you alway want the Rule, the rule, which is good, but in a court the judge does not based his decision entirely from what is written in the rulebook, he also seeks for some intangible, and other facts that is not directly affected to the issue but can be a factor.
peace.
nicksy,
Just answer my question, please:
Is the following an opinion? If not, what is it? (ala Geometry: please provide your proof)
“Manlapaz signed the protest sheet with the intention of snatching the victory from San Beda by forfeit. He certainly didn’t sign the sheet for posterity.�
the answer is already there, just read it out loud,
, if you don’t know how to read between the lines, i’ll make is simple, yes it was part of his opinion, just like said before it was a preparation for the editorial,
Myopic guy, looking always for loopholes, and just always reasoning, a very intelligent person.
sori, ginawa kong kumot ung jersey ni sam. lamig e
@LDC,
your Opinion counts, and i Don’t want to argue anymore with you, if you hate the Article and if you think his (Sir Henson) is libelous, i suggest that you get a lawyer and Demand an Apology, or might as well sue him.
as for me, my opinion that this article was his on behalf an opinion, and no intention to destroy someone.
peace.
rhk111,
“For the record, the rule is VAGUE…�
Care to specify which specific rule is vague and why it is?
Can you paste the rule here so we can both discuss its vagueness?
“…Di bale, sige, kung ganun gusto nila, fine. Malay mo, makaganti kami. If I were Benilde, I would be very careful in terms of following the rules from hereon. I hope na walang butas na makikita later.â€?
Oh, you mean if CSB doesn’t protest now and later you find a CSB infraction you won’t file a protest, like you are returning a favor? Is that how you think?
This doesnt matter to me anymore!
Importante na lang sakin is for San Beda to beat Letran and turn Letran’s record to 6-1.
ang tagal naman ng desisyon. sabihin na kasi kung ano ang parusa para matapos na ang usapan, para matahimik na ang lahat.
i hope they decide in san beda’s favor. pangit naman na maging 3 straight losses as i forsee the knights beating them too.
I already posted this at 8:54 am, am reposting it AGAIN in case anybody missed it:
Let me quote this post from “trencher_k� from the gameface.ph forums:
“Sir Joe, according to Tony Atayde’s column in inboundpass, this was the Rule alluded to:
Rule #6
Playing Uniform and School ID
6.1 All athletes shall wear the OFFICIAL PLAYING TEAM UNIFORM in all the games/matches of the current NCAA Season.
6.5 Any athlete whose playing uniform does not conform to the
preceding rules shall be INELIGIBLE to participate in a given game/match.
9.2 A team shall lose the game by FORFEITURE if and when:
9.2.1 An INELIGIBLE athlete is fielded or enters the playing court with an intent to play. He and his team shall lose the game/match BY FORFEITURE.
I guess the controversy stems from the definition of the OFFICIAL PLAYING TEAM UNIFORM which the Rule, as cited, did not define explicitly. Sam was wearing his Bantay-Bata uniform which was basically the exact same uniform except for the placement of the sponsorship logos. I think the same issue was also brought up in the recent UP-Ateneo game where Kirk Long and Vince Burke were also spotted wearing jerseys with logos different from those used by the other ADMU players. UP, however, took the higher ground when it chose not to file the protest.�
definitely poor in taste! what a pitiful CSB team that they can only win by protest in not wearing the exactly right uniform. i guess your all desperate to grab that 1 victory by a forfeit. Suck you big time CSB
Not a Truly Manly Game! Show Your Manly Stuff Benilde. i despise you all..!! Di na mganda laban ng Letran at Beda nyan! and that because of Gayness of that CSB coach
San Beda is the better team on the court. CSB is the better team in the boardroom.
It’s official: CSB 20, San Beda 0.
natalo si San Beda sa holy war sa langit laban kay St. Benilde.
sabi ni Lord, talo si San Beda dahil hindi niya suot ang kanyang halo.