Comments on: SBP-BAP thinks bigger? Hold on just yet

By: Bodie5283

Bodie5283 — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:02:15 +0000

Let’s get it on!

By: reich

reich — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:33:51 +0000

just like what Mark Molina told me right after the UAAP board declined the UAAP-NCAA merger…i think this will be better than what Patrick Gregorio and the rest of the SBP proposed at the start of this year…i mean, collegiate teams from different parts of the counrty will be playing against each other…this will prove to be really exciting…even if i don’t get to cover the games for my school anymore…i just hope that they, the SBP, can pull this one off…keeping my fingers crossed…

By: Dude

Dude — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:32:42 +0000

The SBP-BAP is not a comparable organization to the US NCAA.

They are trying to duplicate a scenario without the corresponding organizational structure nor power similar to the US NCAA. The US NCAA is a true national collegiate organization. While the SBP-BAP is nothing but a umbrella organization for the UAAP, NCAA, PBL and the like.

The SBP-BAP cannot impose its will on its members since it is more of a loose umbrella organization that promotes basketball ONLY in the country. While the US NCAA organization promotes collegiate sports.

Are we blind?

It will only take one NO answer from an NCAA or UAAP champion to make the national league appear irrelevant.

However, there is a good chance that despite the lack of actual power by the SBP-BAP to compel teams to compete, the idea of “panghihiya” of those who will not lend support to crown the real national champion is possible.

Hiyain sana ng SBP-BAP ang mga paaralang nasa Maynila na nagtatago sa korona ng kanilang maliliit na liga tulad ng UAAP.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:11:42 +0000

Regarding my little proposal on the NCAA Division II, I actually made a “formal” chart and posible scenarios on how we can work it out. You can find them here:

http://ncaaphil.multiply.com/photos/album/13

http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337466

Pls give your comments and opinions too. Thanks.

By: macky

macky — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:21:38 +0000

yes your right… lets just hope that by this decade or next this can be achieve..

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:01:25 +0000

@macky, we have to take it one step at a time. Kaya we schould start to unite these “minor” leagues para mas konti na. If we are to have an NCAA, UAAP, and an NCAA Division II, then we would easily have 3 leagues from Metro Manila and we would be one step closer.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:56:09 +0000

@blank, once the best? I believe we are still the best though they are just more popular nowadays.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:54:39 +0000

@kontra, its because tried ang tested na ang formats nila. Hindi sa gumagaya tayo, its called patterning after their format.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:53:04 +0000

@tanga and kontra, It would have been really easy given that these schools are hungry for exposure and fame. Pwede na kahit pang”Division II” sa BTV ang coverage if ever, since puno na ang timeslots sa S23. Ang scheduling nito edi same time while the UAAP and NCAA are playing. Madali lang to kung tutuusin since dadalhin nila ang name ng NCAA compare to being refered to as minor leagues, oo agad mga yan.

By: macky

macky — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:40:22 +0000

The problem in our society is that we always stay put in the current “Status quo”. its because most people are content with the current situation and we are not willing to take the risk to change.. UAAP and NCAA’s supremacy in the college basketball became a monopoly in our mindset that they are the only leagues that will represent the country as the best college team is for me should be disregarded anymore.

SBP-BAP’s proposal is a step forward of this “Status Quo”.

sir kontra, i think copy is not right word for it, rather it is to “Adapt”. USA NCAA has the solution on how to proclaim there NAt’l champion because of so many schools in there enormous country.. now in our settings it is quiet applicable because even we are a small nation but we are separated by islands and different regions that can almost compare to as a State and by this many leagues sprung up!! and also, do we heard of other college leagues in other parts of the word aside from NCAA USA with the same issues of the league format?? i guess not..

mr. blank is right we should not force a merger with the UAAP and NCAA, we all know UAAP is pride with its so-called traditions, UAAP has nothing for them to be gain with.. but people, do we think that perception is right for our country’s unity?? it reflects our society that is divided with different agendas that is a very shameful reality for us… im not against with the UAAP but they should be the leading force to unite all league without thinking what will they gain for it… they should act know and not saying that in some time in the future.. because the FUTURE is now!! why wait for the next decade or so..

NCAA should start from the bottom up into the top if they still aiming to unite our country’s college leagues..

take the risk people in the NCAA.. Take the risk for our country…

my fellow countrymen.. we are the era of people that supposed to be open for changes in our society.. its for us to decide what should be done in our counrty’s growth in our basketball arena..

writers, we are proud of you because you are our voices for this issues even with different point of views with the issue, and i hope you will write more about this to touch the senses of the people..

By: tanga ako

tanga ako — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:06:50 +0000

i wonder if this will last 70+ years

By: kontra

kontra — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:04:33 +0000

this is easier said (or planned) than done.

why do we always have to copy the US?

By: tanga ako

tanga ako — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:01:30 +0000

this is easier said (or planned) than done….

By: blank

blank — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:28:06 +0000

i think the idea of get_blazed is good. whats important here is to develop the ncaa. lets not force a merger when they dont want to. lets start rebuilding what was once called the best collegiate league, the ncaa

By: blank

blank — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:28:06 +0000

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:14:57 +0000

@ Sir Mike: Sometimes you cant help but feel inferior to the other league. Though I know, we lack not talent nor ability to win. But popularity. The inbalance of popularity is overwhelming. But it suddenly hit me. Why not make an NCAA Division II(I know this was once a vision but failed ultimately, but then again..) comprising of members from all the “minor” leagues(NCRAA, NAASCU, UCAA, CUSA, etc). Wala lang bigla ko lang naisip.. What do you think?

By: blank

blank — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:20:39 +0000

thats what i have said in the other column. its all about popularity.. and false pride.. hindi nga nila masolve ang mga dayaan sa kanila e. lets just stay together wag na tayo nagpipilit ng merger kung ayaw nila.. time will come that they will realize something. alagaan nalang natin ang mga junior players natin and keep them inside..

By: nick

nick — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:21:57 +0000

i agree with you doc mike, UAAP is only superior when it come to popularity, financial capabilities, and media attention, but it doesn’t necessary mean that they(UAAP) are more skilled and have better players.

By: mike

mike — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:42:14 +0000

Get Blazed - do not be frustrated. The NCAA is the oldest, the most senior among them, not the copycat, UAAP is THE breakaway league from the NCAA many, many years back. The entry of DLSU and ADMU made them popular - that’s it. Some if not most great players in the country came from the NCAA. So be proud of the NCAA tradition.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:28:28 +0000

@macky and sir mike: my point exactly. minsan kasi masyado nating cinocompare ang NCA sa UAAP. Why not be the model and be the one to start the expansion and be a bigger league? ang main problem na nakikita ko lang dito is that what others will say. MAsama lang kung magbackfire baka lalong bumagsak popularity ng NC eh. We are often refered to as the jologs version by those from the other side. I do not mean to generalize though. Its just frustrating.

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:24:16 +0000

By “nila” I meant those who are not really for the betterment of college basketball in the Philippines as a whole. Madami kasing detractors especially from the other side (UAAP) na sarado ang isip, by that I meant mataas ang pride and they tend to look down on others(being NC and the other “inferior” leagues).

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:21:31 +0000

Wait, what if the NCAA would just “infuse” all the smaller leagues(NCRAA, NAASCU, CUSA, and whatever other leagues out there) into the league instead? Do you think it would backfire? In terms of fan support and yung level ng tingin ng mga tao sa NC. Baka sabihin kasi nila desperado NC and maleft out nanaman vs the UAAP. Or better yet, yung mentioned “minor” leagues, sila sila nalang magmerge! Nakakaloko nga mga yan meron ibang schools member ng 2 leagues ata, not sure. These are JMO though.

By: macky

macky — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:38:12 +0000

that’s right.. but due to the low current status of the NCAA popularity that other schools are thinking twice to invest into it

By: mike

mike — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:59:46 +0000

macky - its true, its been 82 seasons and still the NCAA could have been the forefront of this “Collegiate Championships”. They could have own this idea and made history. All these college leagues have a working model. They can just make copies of it.

But we have to respect the eventual champs from this tourney.

By: macky

macky — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:44:45 +0000

lets see.. im just disappointed that NCAA in the 82 seasons their planning a expansion on their league but it didn’t materialize…

By: Get_Blazed

Get_Blazed — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:40:49 +0000

No abolished leagues necessary. We play after the tourneys end. Immediately after each crowns their champions then we enter the National Championship phase, the best of the best slugging it out to crown ONE NATIONAL CHAMPION. No but or ifs, here you prove you are the best. Enough said.

http://ncaaphil.multiply.com

By: BedanRoar

BedanRoar — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:39:56 +0000

IMHO, this is possible if, First. Abolish the two Oldest collegiate league (easily said than done), which is doubtful. The tradition of these league’s will be preserved no matter what. well anyway, Good Luck sa Organizers.
@Blazer (Get_Blazed) I understand your point, no problem.

By: Blazer (Get_Blazed)

Blazer (Get_Blazed) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:11:47 +0000

..and to address the problem of arguments whether the UAAP or the NCAA has the truly best talents and squads, while providing exposure to schools in “minor leagues”.

By: Blazer (Get_Blazed)

Blazer (Get_Blazed) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:10:24 +0000

@Bedanroar:kaya nga eto yung way to have one national champion, like in the US NCAA where they have a March Madness, where regional champions battle it out to crown a national college hoop champion. they have their ACC and PAC(similar to our UAAP and NCAA) among others, that send their best teams to prove their worth. Hope everyone will support SBP-BAP’s tourney. This is for the future of our nation’s hoop scene. Para di lang puro sa NC at UAAP umiikot lahat. Here’s to one national champion!

By: BedanRoar

BedanRoar — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:08:30 +0000

Litong-lito na lahat sa dami ng college league (On & Off season). May proposal na naman. Eh. Hindi na Gagraduate mga players nyan, puro basketball na lang gagawin nila the entire school year.

By: Blazer

Blazer — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:13:44 +0000

The only downside is that how can we dumb it down for normal people to understand the complicated format similar to the March Madness? Even I get confused sometimes.

By: Blazer

Blazer — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:10:32 +0000

@Grrr

because everything does not revolve around our 2 “major” leagues.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:43:58 +0000

This is a really good set-up if they can pull it off. However, I just hope that no one, especially any eventual Champion from Manila, will take it for granted. We crown the national champ right here, no excuses

By: The_Big_Cat

The_Big_Cat — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:16:48 +0000

i would like to see an inter-league play between the NCAA and UAAP during the UAAP and NCAA season.

By: Basketball Fan

Basketball Fan — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:10:05 +0000

This is really a good news! With this plan, all regions and registered Associations all over the country will be represented not just UAAP and NCAA, with this I believe that more talents will be discovered especially from teams in the South and North (referring to Region 1 and Baguio). I Salute SBP-BAP for this idea! Mabuhay po kayo!