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• reds493     +1
  Thursday, 3 January 2008 at 11:26 am
  

  I have to agree with San Beda Coach Frankie Lim…the intentions are good but it may take a while before we see a strong foundation for the merger…For me, why rush it? we have the time but we have to start laying the groundworks now and let nature run its course.

  just my toughts and happy new year to all.

• Grrr!     +0
  Thursday, 3 January 2008 at 12:10 pm
  

  I agree the merger should not be rushed. But having a combined tournament, at least for his year is a step to that goal. The unforseen kinks could be identified and ironed out. This “one deal” tournament could lead to a unified league or just prove to all that the status quo is better.

  Just call it the NCAA-UAAP Combined Season 84 / 71.

  It would be good for the NCAA, no doubt the weaker and now 2nd rate (to UAAP, that is) league.

  It would be nice to see the original “conio” schools; SBC, ADMU, CSJL and DLSU “fight” it out again.

  Who knows, we might have a repeat of the 1978 NCAA Fisticuffs that would put even the Pacquiao - Morales fistiana to shame.

  Happy New Year to all!

• Charlie     +0
  Thursday, 3 January 2008 at 3:54 pm
  

  I think most people will agree that a proper timetable has to be set for this to happen. This could even take several years, if it happens at all, considering the number of personae involved. The bottom line is that it is a nice idea, but carrying it into fruition is a different story altogether.

• Justice     +0
  Friday, 4 January 2008 at 2:14 am
  

  it can be done this year if everyone will cooperate. nothing is impossible if there is unity amongst the schools involved. if hindi now gagawin iyan, kailan pa? now is the best time foR merge! hindi next year, hindi mamya na! kaya di tayo umuunlad dahil sa MAMYANA problem natin eh. I GO FOR MERGE! ONE NATION, ONE LEAGUE!ONE COLLEGIATE SUPER LEAGUE!

• jayverns     +0
  Friday, 4 January 2008 at 3:04 pm
  

  tandaan natin na estudyante din ang mga players natin, kapag nangyari yang merger na yan kawawa sila dahil mawawalan sila ng time para mag-aral. isa pa, hindi lang naman tungkol sa “basketball” ang UAAP at ang NCAA,so ibig bang sabihin nito kasama din sa merger yung taekwando, tennis, volleyball, fencing, baseball, etc.? ngayon kung gusto nila ng unified collegiate league, eh di dapat isama rin nila ung mga schools from Visayas and Mindanao at hindi lang UAAP at NCAA schools ang kasali. IMO hindi kailangan na mag-merge ang UAAP at ang NCAA kasi kahit sa US may mga division leagues din sila doon, and tingin ko pwede pa naman na i-improve ang CCL(format,marketing, etc.) para mas mapansin at maka-gain ng prestige. dapat lang may gawin sila para mapasali nila ung lahat ng magagaling na teams.

• no deal!     +0
  Tuesday, 8 January 2008 at 1:34 pm
  

  two words… “no deal!”

• SOLAR     +0
  Tuesday, 8 January 2008 at 7:38 pm
  

  solar entertainment kasi nagcocover kaya boring

• SOLAR     +0
  Tuesday, 8 January 2008 at 7:38 pm
  

  solar entertainment kasi nagcocover ng ccl kaya boring

• BrAtDuDe     +0
  Sunday, 13 January 2008 at 7:15 am
  

  Relieve the rivalry of Ateneo and San Beda, La Salle and Letran… Let’s go for the UAAP-NCAA merge this 2008 college basketball season…

• peace     +0
  Friday, 18 January 2008 at 10:40 am
  

  too much pride on the uaap side…. tama yung isang comment.. ganyan ang nangyayari sa mga magagandang idea. napupuunta sa basurahan dahil sa politics, self interest. how good is that? 16 teams fighting for a single crown? excitement will not end in that format per sayang. down to the waste basket.

• peace     +0
  Friday, 18 January 2008 at 10:41 am
  

  lets just keep our players ncaa and lets see what will happen to the uaap who’s just depending on the organize basketball programs of juniors in the ncaa.

• Marnel Tuble     +0
  Wednesday, 13 February 2008 at 5:03 pm
  

  My Simple Insight Concerning the “Rumor� on the NCAA-UAAP Merger

  In the Philippines, it is beyond doubt that the two most prestigious collegiate basketball leagues are the UAAP and the NCAA. Recently, they are hitting record highs of attendance in the country’s biggest sports arena with obviously the Ateneo de Manila Univerity – De La Salle University tussle as the ultimate crowd drawer. A friend even buzzed me saying “why don’t we transfer the AdMU-DLSU do-or-die games to the Toyota Center (in Houston)?� which can easily accommodate 27,000 people versus the Araneta Center’s limited seating capacity of roughly 15,000. For people who are connected to either or both (as in my case) AdMU and DLSU (professors/administrators, alumni, current students, employees, parents, benefactors, admirers – not necessarily in that order), it is mainly a source of fun similar to a family gathering or a fiesta celebration. Winning the game is just a secondary consideration probably for a right to brag. After all, Ateneo alumni/students in most cases have brothers or sisters or girlfriends who are also alumni/students of UP or DLSU or UST or DLSU-College of St Benilde. Their parents may even be alumni of DLSU or FEU or San Beda or Letran.

  Other UAAP games however, we have to admit, are no different from the usual NCAA games – less attendance and less emotional, at least in general. The arena is only experiencing heavy foot traffic during the semifinal and championship games. The intensity of the game may still be the same but the pomp and the cheers and jeers are apparently subdued and therefore less boisterous. That’s what separates them from the AdMU-DLSU games. Nonetheless, they belong to the same family and therefore deserving of the same appreciation.

  Personally, I believe that the UAAP-NCAA merger will neither subtract nor add to the collegiate league’s popularity. First, in the current set-up these two leagues, albeit covered by the same TV network, are played in different days and therefore anyone can practically watch all UAAP and NCAA games at the same time in one week if he wishes. That’s about the schedule.

  Other matters, however, may spell the difference. Culturally, Filipinos are fond of attaching themselves to whatever is attractive, popular, expensive – sometimes even to the extent of sacrificing honesty! (The Philippine senate’s “circus� investigations within the last six or so years can attest to this; witnesses keep changing their loyalty and get away with the supposed brunt of perjury charges – do that in the US or Western Europe and you’re liable to up to 16 years of prison for the crime of “lying under oath�). In that case, the merger will only be favorable to the most popular schools and the others will be left out with few loyal fans. There and then, we would be hearing comments like “why is it that San Beda students buy tickets to watch AdMU-DLSU games live in the arena and yet opt only to watch the games of their school on TV?� This, despite the fact that San Beda is well regarded academically and is probably the most popular college in the NCAA whose popular alumni-luminaries are among the country’s top leaders. Now, how much more to the lesser-known NCAA schools?

  Another reason is the Filipino penchant for distinguishing between a college and a university which is very much different from the way Americans and Europeans, the original proponents of the term, take a look at the matter. Originally — and it remains to be understood that way in Europe — a college means a group or an association usually of people having some common concerns, e.g., college of surgeons, college of cardinals, and that’s the way the term is understood in the names Colegio Filipino or the North American College in Rome or even the Collegio de San Jose (now San Jose Seminary inside Ateneo de Manila campus). The Jesuits are maintaining some of these colleges in the world’s top schools like Campion College inside Oxford University, and Heythrop College in the University of London. To most Filipinos however, a college is always a degree granting institution of the tertiary level. (Now what about Collegio del Santo Niño de Cebu which only offers grade school?) And worse, they think that a college is always inferior to a university, no wonder we read a myriad of blogs everywhere looking down on San Beda and Letran on a very irrelevant and unreasonable ground that accordingly these institutions are mere colleges. That’s why to some people San Beda and Letran could not be accepted by the UAAP. That’s born out of sheer ignorance. I have degrees from Ateneo and I am currently with La Salle but I always look up to the graduates of both Letran and San Beda in the same way as I admire the great alumni of FEU (who are among the richest and the most efficient leaders in the Philippines — talking about Ramon Ang, Henry Sy, Lucio Tan, Alfonso Yuchengco, Ed Enriquez, Artmeio Panganiban et al.) The fact is, in the US, some colleges are actually more popular than universities. College of William & Mary and the Jesuit-run Boston College are always among the top 30 universities in the US in any national surveys. In fact, according to the US News and World Report those who consider attending Yale University (top ten worldwide and the best law school in the US) also consider attending Boston College. In the movie Lake Placid II, one of the characters mentions entering college at either BC (initial for Boston College) or Northwestern University (home of the JL Kellog School, among the top 3 business schools in the US). Even Boston College is more popular than Boston University in the same way as San Beda is obviously more popular than let’s say University of Manila or Philippine Christian University. What about John Paul II the Great University in San Diego and Ave Maria University in southern Florida? They were already universities the moment they opened with less than 100 students. Therefore, let’s remind our Filipino brothers and sisters that NCAA member schools which are named “collegesâ€? can surely compete well with Philippine universities despite the “inferiorâ€? name “collegeâ€? attached to them.

  Lastly, since UAAP-NCAA games (including cheerleading competition if we call them games) are mainly and probably purely athletic in nature, it now boils down to some very important things. First, the leadership of the 16 member schools (8 UAAP and 8 NCAA); second, the athleticism of their student-athletes; and third, their respective financial capability. Any observer might overemphasize one over another but I must point out that all these three are closely intertwined to the extent that it is not easy to differentiate one from the other. A good leader (for example the late Bro Andrew Gonzales of DLSU, the former President Fr Anscar Chupungco of San Beda, the great founder of Far Eastern University Dr Nicanor Reyes, the chair of the Ateneo board Manny Pangilinan, to name a few) can always generate substantial amount of money to buy the necessary goods needed by the school’s athletic program and can surround themselves with equally excellent coaches and talent scouts to boost their talent lineup. That’s what Manny Pangilinan calls — and I agree with him — synergy. If this synergy is present through what my spiritual director Fr Roque J Ferriols quotes from a philosopher as convergence, then having a UAAP-NCAA merger will be a very meaningful and exciting transformation of Metro Manila’s collegiate sports. If National University or Jose Rizal University can have very dedicated and excellent leaders, for example, there is no reason why they cannot be the overall champions of the eventual UAAP-NCAA merger league. If that will happen, then collegiate sports in the country will all the more become very very exciting.

  As a summary, UAAP-NCAA merger presents a more exciting opportunity to all collegiate sports enthusiasts and stake holders. The overemphasis attached to AdMU-DLSU games will be both scrutinized at a higher level and be given another look in relation to the bigger body of 16 teams. The “lower� categorization tagged to colleges vis-à-vis universities will be diminished and, if those schools which are currently lagging behind as tail-enders in the rankings can have excellent leaders who can generate substantial funds and recruit top caliber athletes, then we can expect much more exciting games.

• TigerPack     +0
  Thursday, 14 February 2008 at 4:10 am
  

  Ala yan. Gusto niyo lang ng puro pride. Ateneo-La Salle-San Beda-Letran. Puro pride. Walang kwenta.

  Magsamasama na lang kasi kayo sa isang liga!

  Excuse me. Hindi lang Ateneo-La Salle ang UAAP! Yayabang niyo!

• TigerPack     +0
  Thursday, 14 February 2008 at 4:14 am
  

  Ateneo-La Salle ultimate crowd drawer. Sus. Nasuspend yung isa. Yung isa tumatanggap ng estudyante kahit bagsak sa ACET. Lumayas na lang kaya kayo sa UAAP.

  Puro kayo porma.

• macky     +0
  Saturday, 16 February 2008 at 9:41 pm
  

  i concur on what Mr. Marnel Tuble’s words,hey tigerpack maybe there will be a rivally also of Letran and Ust that i think will also be exciting, New rivalries will form as the merger will happen.

• John Sy Tan     +0
  Thursday, 21 February 2008 at 3:30 pm
  

  Tama si macky TigerPack. I also agree with the opinion of Marnel Tuble. Letran vs UsT! Ang gandan ng game na yun, parang laro ng kapatiran d ba? Tsaka sa tingin ko dadami ang crowd baka tatalunin pa crowd ng Ateneo-Lasalle game

• Hernie     +0
  Tuesday, 26 February 2008 at 6:42 pm
  

  Well the merger couldn’t possibly happen cause 2 leagues have different rules. If you merge both some rules will argue with another. Still, cool IDEA! :)

• 2log     +0
  Monday, 3 March 2008 at 11:56 pm
  

  The merger is a good idea.. the two leagues just need to set aside their pride before that happens.. mas masaya un!!!!!!! go go go! for the merger!!!!!!

• Boboako     +0
  Wednesday, 5 March 2008 at 3:39 am
  

  Hernie, my isip ka ba?

  Nakataga ba sa bato ang mg rules na yan? Eh taon taon may binabago. Lnaghiyang UAAP board yan, kampon ni Padre Damaso.

• Boboako     +0
  Wednesday, 5 March 2008 at 3:40 am
  

  Hernie, my isip ka ba?

  Nakataga ba sa bato ang mga rules na yan? Eh taon taon may binabago. Langhiyang UAAP board yan, kampon ni Padre Damaso.

• macky     +0
  Thursday, 6 March 2008 at 4:45 pm
  

  well to think of it our current situation in the college basketball is not stable in coming decades.. maybe our mentality that UAAP is the best league today wasn’t different so different during the 1950’s or 60’s when NCAA was at its golden age, that UAAP is just a minor league to them..and maybe the students during those time never think that ateneo and lasalle will leave the NCAA and transfer to the UAAP, and even Letran will be suspended for 1 year bcoz of riots that happened in the 80’s with LaSalle, and also San Beda’s leave in the NCaa in the 80’s.

  aLl in all the conclusion is that nothing is permanent in the college ball even today, because maybe one of this day,weeks,months or years the college hoops will be shock that ateneo or Lasalle returned to the NCAA and launch again another Golden age of the NCAA bcoz of the reunion of the 4 greatest rivally. or even the opposite might happen because schools like Letran and San Beda is on its way to became a university in the next decade,and ofcourse those schools are prestigous not just in basketball but also in academic that the UAAP will not hesitate to open up their doors for them. or even the new emerging rivalries of other schools might even surpass the ateneo-letran-laSalle-sanbeda rivalries.

  UAAP and NCAA should think for the future of the philippine basketball as their main objective as well as the other events to, help us to establish our country in international sporting event.

• aquitectos_tigre     +0
  Friday, 7 March 2008 at 8:17 pm
  

  @TIGER pack,
  halata nmn hnd ka tga UST dahil sa ugali mo e. kung mayabang ka hnd mo gagamitin ang symbol ng tomasino. kung sino ka man wg ka ng mang gulo sa mga forums kasi sinisira mo lng kmeng mga tomasino. as for the rumor n mgsasama n nga NCAA at UAAP mukhang magandang proposal nga to sa mga fans pero wg lng mgmadali

• aquitectos_tigre     +0
  Friday, 7 March 2008 at 8:21 pm
  

  pero pg ng merger ang UAAP at NCAA sana masunod ang rules ng UAAP na kahit ngaaral sa mga skuls ng UAAP ung player pag walang dugong pinoy ay HINDI pwede mglaro para matignan talaga kung sino malakas na team at para din mabigyan ng chance ung mga ibang pinoy na gusto maglaro.

• rmacky     +0
  Saturday, 8 March 2008 at 8:31 pm
  

  i think rules of both leagues should be implemented.. NCAA rules that UAAP rules doesn’t have must be implemented and vice-versa… then conflicting rules will be strengthen so that the merge league has a flexible rules that all schools must follow. Then lastly UAAP-NCAA must reach out to the students that patronizing it.. Organizations will be established in which not just sports but also academic and cultural as well.. (an example these is the establishment of the NCAA band United last NCAA season that the mapua drum corp and the Letran band Drumline spearheaded it..)

• macky     +0
  Saturday, 8 March 2008 at 8:34 pm
  

  i think rules of both leagues should be implemented.. NCAA rules that UAAP rules doesn’t have must be implemented and vice-versa… then conflicting rules will be strengthen so that the merge league has a flexible rules that all schools must follow. Then lastly UAAP-NCAA must reach out to the students that patronizing it.. Organizations will be established in which not just sports but also academic and cultural as well.. (an example these is the establishment of the NCAA band United last NCAA season that the mapua drum corp and the Letran band Drumline spearheaded it..)

• Fighting Maroons     +0
  Thursday, 27 March 2008 at 2:11 am
  

  woooow…,, and daming info for my position paper,,,… ako personally pro-merge..,, sana lang matuloy siya..,, i am a product of both NCAA and UAAP.. san beda nung HS tas UPD ngayong college..,, kelangan lang talaga maplantsa ng maayos lahat ng sides para wala na yung mga insidenteng di kanais-nais..,, kung magkakaroon man ng mga bagong rivalry, let it be a healthy one..,, PAX tayo people!

• chellotte     +0
  Thursday, 27 March 2008 at 11:36 am
  

  @ Marnel Tuble “why is it that San Beda students buy tickets to watch AdMU-DLSU games live in the arena and yet opt only to watch the games of their school on TV?� This, despite the fact that San Beda is well regarded academically and is probably the most popular college in the NCAA whose popular alumni-luminaries are among the country’s top leaders. Now, how much more to the lesser-known NCAA schools?

  - I don’t think na nangyayari talaga ito, and if ever man, hindi naman majority ng Bedans ang gumagawa nito… Bedans are there to support San Beda RL in their NCAA games…

  BTW, Marnel Tuble, you are from Ateneo, right?!

• dugong maroon     +0
  Sunday, 6 July 2008 at 8:50 pm
  

  yeah im really hoping as well for the merger…another product of uaap and ncaa…
  both maroon teams…hehe…

• James Ty III     +0
  Monday, 7 July 2008 at 12:36 pm
  

  Off topic: To Charlie, hey, you’re good in analyzing college hoops! Hope BTV absorbs you in the PBA panel as well as in the other leagues BTV covers.

• mark     +0
  Monday, 7 July 2008 at 8:01 pm
  

  sayang talo lasalle

• mark     +0
  Monday, 7 July 2008 at 8:02 pm
  

  green archers la salle

• Charlie     +0
  Tuesday, 8 July 2008 at 10:11 am
  

  Thanks a lot, Mr James Ty III. Appreciate your support. See you at the PBA venues!

• bystander     +0
  Tuesday, 8 July 2008 at 10:23 am
  

  @ Marnel Tuble “why is it that San Beda students buy tickets to watch AdMU-DLSU games live in the arena and yet opt only to watch the games of their school on TV?� This, despite the fact that San Beda is well regarded academically and is probably the most popular college in the NCAA whose popular alumni-luminaries are among the country’s top leaders. Now, how much more to the lesser-known NCAA schools?

  I don’t know about San Beda students but I know this to be true for a number of Bedan alumni who, like me, attended either Ateneo and La Salle in college or post-grad studies later in life.

  Given the fact also that San Beda’s GS and HS departments are now in faraway Tanay, depending on where they live, a lot of Bedan fathers that I know (again, I am no exception) would now rather send their kids to either La Salle or Ateneo and would occasionally accompany their kids to the games.

• bystander     +0
  Tuesday, 8 July 2008 at 10:43 am
  

  @aquitectos_tigre. You said: “pero pg ng merger ang UAAP at NCAA sana masunod ang rules ng UAAP na kahit ngaaral sa mga skuls ng UAAP ung player pag walang dugong pinoy ay HINDI pwede mglaro para matignan talaga kung sino malakas na team at para din mabigyan ng chance ung mga ibang pinoy na gusto maglaro.”

  You must have forgotten that both Ateneo and La Salle do have foreign players with absolutely NO Filipino blood at all? So there is NO existing rule in the UAAP that prevents foreign players from playing. However, there are rules that (1) only two foreign players per team and (2) only one of these two foreign players can be fielded at any given time.

  Same rules as in the NCAA.

  So I don’t think the “rules” can be considered a good argument for a possible merger. Whatever the differences, I don’t think they are major anyway. Madali pag-usapan yan kung talagang gusto nila.

  I think the bigger issue might be that with more teams in the combined league, the season will take a whole lot longer and not finish before the semester is over. The same is true for the other sports. Pero kalokohan din itong palusot na ito! The US NCAA is at least ten times bigger (in terms of number of total number of teams participating, games being played, and events being contended) than our collegiate leagues here and yet they are able to manage the schedules to allow athletes enough time to spend for their studies.

  Pag ayaw, maraming dahilan…. at the end of the day, it all boils down to this: Pinoy-style factionalism and “pataasan ng ihi”.

• Ronald Javier     +0
  Thursday, 11 September 2008 at 1:12 pm
  

  suggest ko lng ang Phil. Collegiate Championships ay gawing 32 team format para mas masaya at exciting at mas marami collegiate teams makasali. at sana rin ang mga collegiate team champions sa ibat-ibang Collegiate teams sa buong bansa ay automatic seeded na gaya ng sa UAAP,NCAA,NAASCU,NCRAA at sa iba pang mga collegiate leagues sa buong Pilipinas,bukod pa sa mga collegiate teams na galing sa power rankings. sana malaman ng organizers ng Phil. Collegiate Championships. Tnx!

• monskie     +0
  Monday, 29 September 2008 at 5:23 pm
  

  ang tanging problema lang naman jan ay ang pagpayag ng kanikanilang liga na maabolish ang kanilang liga na matagal na nanjan hal. 84th season na ncaa at 71 season na uaap sobrang tagal na ng liga nila na ayaw na nila mawala, paano na lang kung ng merge cila ano na lang ang itatawag sa kanila? at ciempre cino ang mamumuno sa liga kung sakali, hindi ba, parang BAP lang yan ayaw nilang ma abolish kahit mayron na SBP di rin cila magkasundo sa mga lider nila, kaya napakaliit ng tsansa na mag merge cila

• ....     +0
  Wednesday, 1 October 2008 at 3:14 pm
  

  suggestion ko lang, gawing prang NBA ung format ng sched. EAST vs. WEST = NCAA vs. UAAP

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